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Comentado por 6099

This is gets a nice upgrade in TBC: https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=19107

Bloodseeker
Binds when picked up
Crossbow
108 - 162 Damage Speed 3.30
(40.9 damage per second)
+8 Strength
+7 Agility
Durability 75 / 75

Comentado por 32

I as a hunter go for :
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=19106
and put +15 Agility on it

And Then Get This Off The AH :
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=13040

Comentado por stass

Nice reward and able to get this in 2 AV runs at most. Great stats adder for rogues and the DPS is not bad as well... You might want to consider this weapon till you find yourself the striders mark or any better epic

Comentado por 8916

To note, for alliance, this crossbow is obtained from the quest line outside the Alterac Valley Entrance in Hillsbrad/Alterac Mountains: "The Battle of Alterac." The quest line was changed a little, and some may be mislead when not seeing this in the rewards at first. You will be given a follow up quest immediately after handing it in, that lets you choose Bloodseeker as a reward.

Comentado por Jel251

Hehe with this xbow, I can add aimed shot in my shot rotation without losing much autoshot dps.

Comentado por Easwar

As a Level 49 BM/MM Hunter Spec, should i get this or Ice Barbed Spear (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=19106)? Thnx for your info.

Comentado por 47160

As a hunter, I would personally go for Ice Barbed Spear. This provides GREAT stats that will make lower lvl bows just as powerful... and tbh when I changed from a lvl 40 bow to a lvl 50, i only noticed a few damage per hit difference, and with the polearms stat boosts that will last u well into hellfire peninsula, it cant be beaten by a few extra DPS

Comentado por Gorgaro

I am a lvl 50 MM hunter. Should i get Bloodseeker or Ice Barbed Spear?

Comentado por 159525

I took this bow when I had the chance... And the Nerubian Slavemaker, an epic crossbow, just barely beats it. It's available to use at level 60 from the Baron Rivendare "Kessel Run" event. There's not a bow, crossbow, or gun until you can get your hands on the Coilfang Needler (And even then, that's a white DPS upgrade, while being a bit of an overall downgrade) from Slave Pens second boss, Rokmar the Crackler. It is truly amazing.

Comentado por Thottbot

quest reward for alterac valley battlegrounds, avalible right outside the cave entrance, no prerequesits

Comentado por Thottbot

No, you will not be kicking yourself at lvl 60 if yo get this bow.

Lets put it this way, this xbow is the second hardest hitting ranged weapon in the entire game, second only to the Rhok'delar (Hunter epic quest reward).

Trust me, if your going for crit (as any Hunter should) then get this bow. Critting is all about maximum damage, and this blow delivers in that regard.

People say that there are better ranged weapons in the game, which is true, but let me just say again, if your like me and rely on critical hits, get this xbow.

I'd much prefer 1% to crit that comes from Peacemaker and Barbarous Blade than the 21 agi you get from Ice Barbed Spear, combine that with the Bloodseeker, and you bave yourself THE BEST BLUE COMBINATION FOR PURE DAMAGE.

Comentado por Thottbot

As a hunter, I'll put my two cents in on the Polearm vs X-Bow debate. When I got the quest done in AV I already had a Barbarous Blade and a Dwarven Hand Cannon, so neither of these weapons really interested me. However, I chose the Polearm, because having a high stamina weapon is useful in places like Molten Core, and this polearm has high stamina without sacrificing agility. Needless to say it was way better then my current weapon.

Now assuming none of the above was true, that X-Bow is really freaking nice, I see people comparing it to a gorewood bow, the gorewood bow is a quest reward for like a 6 stage quest that takes 5-10 people to accomplish. For this all you have to do is hang around AV enough, plus you get several other rewards in the process. It has higher aimed shots, and multi shots then the gorewood bow.

The spear is not a great primary weapon for a hunter, yes it gives like 00.4% chance to crit, and 40 attack power, but something like a barbarous blade gives 01.0% crit chance and 60 attack power. Peacemaker is like the same thing with slightly less attack power. IMO if you have a DHC, arcanite rifle, core marksman rifle, or epic drop ranged weapon from MC, then don't get the X-Bow. Otherwise you might as well get it.

Comentado por Thottbot

alright, i dont know how you got the idea that in anyway gorewood is better then bloodseaker, blood is the highest damaging (get higher crits) blue ranged weapon in the game, and second highest even out of the epics, second only to rok delhar or whatever. blood has higher DPS, higher damage, hell of a lot easier to get, the only thing gorewood has that is slightly better is stats, and its like 5 stamina and 2 agility, big woop. over ice barbed spear, there a a lot more melle weapons you can get then ranged. this is a end game bow. you pass it up for IBS and you hunters will be very very sorry, there is no compatition. choose bloodseeker over IBS

Comentado por Thottbot

Taken directly from WoW homepage:

"The quests Korrak the Bloodrager (Alliance), Korrak the Everliving (Alliance), The Legend of Korrak (Horde), and The Return of Korrak (Horde) have been removed from the game. The rewards for the initial quest involving Korrak have been moved and can be acquired by completing the quest associated with winning a match in Alterac Valley. We realize that some players may have had the Korrak quest and never completed it. These players may have already completed the quest for killing the General and thus might not be able to benefit from the rewards from the previous quest line. We have opted to add an extra quest step at the end of the General kill quests to reward players that fall under such conditions."

Comentado por Thottbot

This is just about the BEST Xbow for lvl 51 out there... The slow speeds make it perfect for marksmanship hunters cause the higher crit with Aimed Shot. Nice agility also, which = equals higher ranged attack power

Comentado por Thottbot

Yes the +21 Agi on Ice barb spear is great, however its 2 handed, if you put the +15 Agi enchant on it your looking at +36 Agi. However if you dual wield you can have +15 Agi on each axe plus the normal bonuses, if you get two weapons with +10 Agi Eeach, with the agility enchant on both your looking at +50 Agility, greater than the spear.

Not to mention this bow will give bigger Aimshots than even the Dwarven Hand Cannon because its slower. This is easily one of the best Aimshot weapons out there

If you choose IBS dont choose it because of the + Agility.

Comentado por Thottbot

They are doing to ranged weapons what they did to Rogues in a previous patch. For combat rogues, it went from desiring a slow main hand weapon to a main hander that has the highest damage range. That said, the Bloodseeker is STILL the best non-instance (meaning ZG, MC, BWL, AQ, etc)to get. It beats the damage end range of all bows, guns, or crossbows in it's class. And you can get it as low as 51? Whats not to like?

Comentado por Thottbot

Simply because I needed to lvl up my XBows and I have three of the highest dps polearms in the game, plus two Bone Slicing Hatchets... It hits really really hard and will be nice in PvP... I hit a mage in AV last night for 2994 lol. I bet he was really pissed.

Comentado por Thottbot

So how do you get this,,?

you go into AV win the match and go to some dude in alterac?

Or do you first need to go to some dude and then win an AV match?

thanks,
Altheroth
lvl 52 hunter
Khadgar

Comentado por Thottbot

The quest for this has changed. Now, you get a quest called "The Battle of Alterac", which tells you to kill the General. Basically, that just means win a game of AV. Once that's done, you talk to the questgiver again, and he/she offers these as rewards. They aren't listed in the original quest.

This Crossbow is TONS better than the Spear for Hunters. Any other class should rightfully choose the Spear. Sure, the Spear benefits us with +stam and +Agi, but there's much better things. Dual BSHs, Dual Dawn's Edges, etc. The slow speed of this crossbow is alright, because the damage on it is huge compared to anything else we could obtain right now. An Aimed Shot crit with this hits for around 1700, which is close to 50% if not more of any non-Warrior/Pally's Health Pool.

Comentado por Thottbot

I would say, for a hunter .. pick the Crossbow.. you will get more Agi etc from 2x Bone Slicing hatchet...

Comentado por Thottbot

Anyone else think that the bow is awesome for non-hunters. I am a warrior and good two-handers are easy at or near end game to get. I have a blue mace, polearm and purple sword (destiny, so 52 but still awesome), just to level them up and there being tons of, no one needs another two hander except to shard, so give to the warrior. Plus can't forget about the exalted mace. But isn't this about the best non-hunter range weapon you can get. It pulls with big crits and adds great stats. My other options are to use my engineering and create a core rifle, which no one, is ever going to give me core if not for armor. Or lets roll on a BOP Epic and see how fast the leader can type /gkick. Am I mistaken, that this is my best option unless I make grand marshall and even then...

Comentado por Thottbot

Here is a comparison between the Rhok and Bloodseeker. You think it's silly to compare the two?... well, just look at this. I tested the two weapons using a few different variables. For one test I used my max AP gear and one I used lower AP gear. I also compared Jagged Arrow (+13 dps) to the Doomshot (+20 dps) Look and be amazed.

Here is the DAMAGE that each output. I know the DPS of the Rhok is obviosuly goign to be higher, but for PVP, i bascially only care abotu damage. .3 seconds on your auto-shot doesn't make that great of a difference on PvP usually.

This is on low attack power:

Rhok: Jagged Arrow: 378-456
Doomshot: 398-476
Blood: Jagged Arrow: 413-457
Doomshot: 436-480

Highest attack power:

Rhok: Jagged Arrow: 424-502
Doomshot: 444-522
Blood: Jagged Arrow: 465-509
Doomshot: 488-532

As your attack power goes up, the Bloodseeker becomes better and better. I was under the impression that Blizzard changed the way that slow weapons function... but apparently they are still as incredible as ever. The Rhok will give more DPS, or course... but in a short fight, I will want the Bloodseeker. It has higher and, perhaps more importantly TIGHTER damage.
The middle damage of each at my max attack power is: Rhok: 483 Blood 510
That's 27 difference....

A weapon that you can get by sitting in a battleground and doing NOTHING at level 51, will give you, on average, 27 more damage that a weapon that you...
get at level 60, go into a 40 man raid dungeon, kill one of the last bosses, get the leaf to drop (50% drop rate, i think), battle 4 ELITE level 60 demons, go kill a huge freakin dragon with a decent amount of people and wait for a 30% drop...

Um... did I miss something here, Blizzard? I do mostly PvP, and I loved my Bloodseeker, but I thought "hey, I could really use a decent epic ranged weapon". I am fortunate to be able to get the sinew drop in one of my first runs with the guild, and in a few weeks I get the leaf. I do the quest and I equip my bow only to be completely shocked and dismayed... I did all that work just to get something that is really only good for PvE.... so I guess it's fitting that Bloodseeker is gotten from PvP, and Rhok from PvE... but I really thought that the damage of 166 vs 128 would be drastically better. I was wrong.

Comentado por Thottbot

by the way, if you get the Ice Barbed spear over Bloodseeker for PvP purposes after reading that info I just posted... then you need your head examined.

Comentado por Thottbot

Ok, so I talked with some people who explained to me that the base damage of Bloodseeker is higher, but that the aimed and multi-shots are higher because there is normalized damage given to all weapons. It still seems strange that regular auto-shots from the Bloodseeker have higher damage.

Comentado por Thottbot

So how would this Outrider's Bow compare to the xbow for a hunter? SAme DPS, faster speed, 3 less agil and usefull stam.

Comentado por Thottbot

Well I was lucky enough to have Bow of Searing Arrows at lvl 38 or 39, but after running around wanting the ice spear, once I looked at this and how sweet its stats are, how can you go past it, if you are a hunter and dont get this, you will regret it, there plenty other ways to get better agi stats than this spear.
Only thing left to do is restat. I'm beast mastery and the crits have gone up 100 from the searing arrows, but still crap compared to what I see here, i'll restat tomorrow to a marksman, server is down tonight :( Look out pvp im coming.

And got it after first visit to AV, dont get better than that :)

Comentado por Thottbot

Post Before the Storms patch. Just got it last night. Now has:
108 - 162 Damage
(40.9 damage per second)
+7 Agility
+8 Strength
Speed 3.30

Comentado por Thottbot

Wow i was amazed when i loged on my 57 dawarf hunter after the patch came out and looked a the DPs on my bloodseeker! man like a 8 dps increase and it retained its speed! i thought i could own with my bow befor but now give my unfortunat clothwear 4 seconds at the most befor they hit the ground. even priest (thank god for silencing shot) but ya i STRONGLY advide any hunter pick the crossbow i mean it has the same dam Top damage of the grand marshal ranged weppons! and i would slap any hunter hat picked the spear!

PS: i have done 2745 crit on a shaman with this!
Dixxie Dwarf hunter on skywall give me a shout!

Comentado por Thottbot

So all these rewards already sucked for me, a rogue. It's either the hammer (a caster hammer) or the crossbow (which has better dmg, but lesser stats than the one I got after an hour in the portal). Being a melee class, i dont care about the damage......What vendors for the most? :P

Comentado por Thottbot

I'd recommend that any lvl 51 hunter grab all the AV quests straight away, and head to the battleground to get a bunch of XP and this fine weapon.

You'll need to win one, of course - afterwards, if you need to, go somewhere with some level 49-50 mobs (turtles in Tanaris or Hinterlands, perhaps) and spend 20-30 minutes raising your crossbow skill.

Once I got my weapon skill to 225 or so, it really started to hit hard, and I certainly don't regret getting this instead of the polearm.

Comentado por Thottbot

Thank you all for commenting that this is infact better than the spear for the hunters..I just got it with my 51 hunter and it owns.

Comentado por Thottbot

how the hell do you do this quest? you have to get the banner from inside the damn cave and theres about 100 ?lvl elites guarding it, do you get your whole raid group to clear the cave for you?

Comentado por Thottbot

Both Alterac Valley and Arathi Basin have camps in the world. Arathi Basin have their camp in Hammerfall( horde )in the Arathi Highlands at the east. I dont know for the Alliance, but check maps and I think you can find something. Alterac Valley is located in the Alterac Mountains.

Well, well. You will find a guy in a camp in Alterac Southeast of the ruins. If you walk inside the cave you will also find a woman who wants you to capture towers, bunkers ond mines( I skip mines because nobody wants to kill kobolds )And then you will need to enter and just kill Vanndar Stormpike. When you get outside you will just leave the quest to the same guy and you wont get any rewards and it is doesn't writtened in the quest that you should get any. Then a new mark will pop up and you can just choose your reward and click Complete Quest.

Ice Barbed Spearis great for hunter.
Bloodseeker is pretty good too if you dont have any good ranged.

Comentado por Thottbot

Wow, so many xbow vs polearm debates... Well I've been playing hunters ever since the game came out and to me it's not even a question...I first picked the polearm cause of better stats but regretted it dearly, on my second toon I picked the Xbow and did so much damage it wasn't even funny... The Xbow is one of the highest dps ranged weapon in the game and it's so easy to get, while there are so many melee weapons out there, Xbows are much rarer so one should jump on the occasion.. if you like big numbers, take the bow, period!

And who cares if it's slow, ever heard of Arcane shot, serpent stings, that can break ur auto-shot A/S ? Weapon A/S =/= character A/S...

Once you crit like crazy and one-shot clothies u'll know u've made the right choice, trust me..

Comentado por Thottbot

Got a question...

Currently I am using a Hurracane https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=2824/furacão
and I have a level 70 Bow waiting for me, Valano: https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=31303/arco-longo-de-valanos

should I get the Cross bow or the spear?

Right now I am about to be 52. Will the heavy damage of Bloodseeker aid me on my Journey?

Please advice. Thanks!

======

Just to answer my own question... (2 weeks after)
I picked the bloodseeker instead since there are many 2h weapons in AH in the near future that has the same stat similar to the spear.

FYI, it is MUCH harder to get bloodseeker since patch 2.3

It is almost impossible to kill the general of either side now since the patch... one side would run out of resources before killing the general... so for those of you who have not done this yet. Good luck!

Comentado por Thottbot

Picked up the crossbow at level 53 and kept it all the way until level 62 when I got the Expedition Repeater from Hellfire. This is a great crossbow! I didn't have pvp gear and doing AV at level 60 with a blue/green setup, I dropping bombs on squishies (Cloth Wearers) and coming out on top of the damage and killing blow charts. I only ran into problems when OOM. Trust me, this xbow is Good To Go!

I was a BM spec, but if you're MM with Aimed Shot.... ^_^

Comentado por Thottbot

I didn't get it at 52 because i had outriders bow which was a nice
34.8 dps
+8 sta
+3 agi
personally i couldnt see the point of getting this as the dps and stats are only marginally more and i had another outrider bow level above the one i had, and the polarm is actually awsome
not only does it look good but the stats it gives and its dps is very nice for 52 allthough mebbe im saying this because i had grimloks charge before but in my opinion bloodseeker is the icing on the cake but the polarm is a whole new cake altogether

Comentado por Allakhazam

Seeking clarification- I heard the "Legend of Korack" quest is no longer in the game, so, what is the repacement quest called?

Comentado por Allakhazam

great bow..needs a better look.

looks like a toy!

Comentado por Allakhazam

After hearing about the Ice Barbed Spear being a 'freebie' in another thread, I decided to check out where it came from and lead me to this..
The AV quest was easy as hell, decided to try it at 52 just a couple days ago. Took me 4 or 5 runs in a row total before Alliance defeated Drek and I got this bow.. When I wasnt getting wiped out by some 60 Horde group, I actually spent the majority of the time just trying to complete the quests you get INSIDE AV heh..
Interesting and confusing bg but hey..
The crossbow is well worth it. And I got my AV marks turned in at the same time.

Comentado por Allakhazam

I would reccomend Choosing the polearm, there are so many Ranged weapons out there that are so similar that it hardly makes a difference. The stats on it are also not all that great(for hunters atleast) and the agi and stam bonus for polearm are much greater.

And also, with the high dmg of 139 and low dmg of 74, equal smaller chances to get those high crits, but with something like, Arco de Ossos Antigos dmg is 87-88, this is the most stable dmg on a bow in the game(besides screehing bow which is 70-71).. equaling a steady dps and a better chance for good crits, increasing dps more, which could give you a higher dps the this xbow would at an average rate.

Comentado por Allakhazam

I'm a rogue, trained crossbow awhile back... never seen a good one until this. So much better than thrown (didn't feel like using a gun). I haven't even trained halfway yet and get crits at 600+. Non-Hunters can use this as their ranged weapon and be more happy than hunters probably. I know I am with it.

Comentado por Allakhazam

should be worth 4g but post 2.0 it has no sell price?

Comentado por Allakhazam

anyone who takes the Ancient Bone Bow or the Carapace Spine Xbow over the Bloodseeker, and isntead gets the polearm, must be HIGH.

Think about it -- if you want to do maximum damage, would you not want something that makes your Aim Shot and Multi Shot do more damage? What would be the point of even using those skills if you had a fast bow with low topend? It'd just make you do less dmg. The slower the bow, while still having good DPS, the better.

Bloodseeker is comparable to Rhok'Delar --

Quote from THOTTBOT:
"Rhok: Jagged Arrow: 424-502
Doomshot: 444-522
Blood: Jagged Arrow: 465-509
Doomshot: 488-532 "

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=40260

Comentado por Allakhazam

As a rogue i use a bow just for stats (and the occasional pull) so this bow is great.

Comentado por Allakhazam

I just became lvl 51 with my NE rogue, entered AV, won after 20 min and got the reward :D

Comentado por Allakhazam

The merchant sell price on this page is wrong. It's a free quest reward for winning an AV game. Same with the Ice Barbed Spear. It might only be good until you are level 58. But you can win an AV at level 51, and it's FREE. Don't worry if you are low level and think you won't have fun in AV since everyone is level 60. It's not true and there are lots of low level warriors, hunters, mages, paladins all after their AV quest rewards.

Comentado por Allakhazam

do you have to be friendly with the clan to get the quest?

Comentado por Allakhazam

look at it this way also... it's a great reward for something you get just being in av long enough. Where as other ranged weapons u may need to run instances a few times over to get what you need...and any blue ranged may still not even offer as heavy of an aimed shot as this does.

Comentado por Allakhazam

There are much better greens in the Outlands that you can get at level 58 (lower if you have a buddy that can warp you in, and run you through a few quests near Hellfire Citadel.)

Comentado por Allakhazam

Im 52 and i can use it

Comentado por Allakhazam

I took the IBS pre 2.0 and then it was the right choice... now? With the RAP nerf/ Ranged DPS buffs--> Bloodseeker is sweet and easily better for hunters.

Comentado por Allakhazam

As a hunter, its a really good idea to get your rep up in AV. This thing will last you untill you can get Rhok'delar.

First win gets you this crossbow.
Honored gets you ice bullets
Revered get you the harpy hide quiver.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Questions, I read this post:

There is no reputation requirement. You need to have won an Alterac Valley game. When you do, speak to a female dwarf inside the room of the Stormpike leader and you should be able to get this quest.

Does this mean you win the match, then get the quest? Or my first time in AV do I go get the quest, then win, then collect?

Also, is this free? It says it has a merchant sell price of 22 G?

Lastly, is there a level requirement? Or can I go into AV as a lvl 51, and get the bow, and equip and start using it then?

Thak you.

Comentado por Allakhazam

This is one of the best pvp ranged hunter weapons in the game. Think only Rhok'delar hits for more on single hits.
My first shot with it was a 2556 point crit...

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