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Comentado por Spleener

Apparently, every mob in Sunwell Plateau has this. It's basically a band-aid for the fact that Blizz screwed up the way tank gear scaled so that now people can get ridiculous amounts of avoidance.

It was either this or make bosses hit so hard that they'll either miss or one-shot a tank. I'd say they made a good call here.

Comentado por Bryant

This buff will no longer be in effect when the Sunwell event finishes phase 3, by the way.

Comentado por Taemojitsu

...and here I hoped this was meant to address Blizzard's terrible scaling mechanics. If Bryant is correct, then this aura is a nice built-in nerf to keep Nihilum and similar guilds from blowing thru the entire Sunwell in less than a week; hardcore guilds will have no reason to complain when the content is 'nerfed' by the removal of this aura from server progression because it was something that was already planned and in the game.

If Bryant isn't correct, tho.. then this is Blizzard's attempt to compensate for the high variance of damage input on an endgame tank... as well as, MAYBE to make it so dpsers who pull aggro don't get one-shotted so easily, but only for classes that don't already get their survivability from dodge. Example:

1) Blizzard introduces this aura that reduces avoidance by 25%.
2) Blizzard nerfs the base damage of all mobs by 25% from what it would otherwise be so healers can keep up.
3) A mage that pulls aggro will be taking ~25% less damage, but...
4) A rogue that pulls aggro will be taking the same amount of damage as before, because a rogue would normally have high enough dodge to take less damage than a mage.

Math for variance on tanks: max variance for damage output will be when you have exactly 50% 'nonstandard' events... with crit immunity and crushing immunity for pallies and warriors this means 50% dodge/parry/miss. If you have more than this damage is spikey, but less likely to lead to a string of hits on the tank; if you have less than this, damage is constant but you sometimes get strings of dodges/parries etc that healers can react to. By having a buff like this, Blizzard can theoretically give tanks lower variance in damage output, leading to less dead tanks and maybe more importantly, different healing styles. Because things like HoTs, as non-reactive healing do much much much better on tanks with low damage input variance.

So lower variance (as opposed to lower mitigation) is good for all concerned, and it is in everyone's best interests to support game mechanics that lead to low damage input variance. As Photon says, it would be great if the game was balanced around blocking attacks (and for druids, high armor values) instead of avoiding them altogether... sadly, apart from hacks like this specific aura, that isn't going to happen in WoW unless Blizzard makes pretty drastic changes to things like threat mechanics... which they have no reason to do when everyone is obsessed with the guarantee of achievable loot, because it would fall into the class of 'more random and difficult' and that's what leads to complaining.

Comentado por Tauftamir

As someone who is currently raiding Sunwell, I haven't seen any evidence that this buff is active on any hostile NPC. The Buff is certainly not active on any trash mob or boss leading up to Brutallus.

I would take these comments with a grain of salt until proven otherwise.

Comentado por Dyaus

How is gearing up more because your dodge is reduced any different from gearing up more because the mobs have more hp/higher armor value/hit harder/etc/etc?

This change doesn't just require tanks to get better gear -- it requires them to change their itemization goals entirely.

Most end game tanks aim for a certain amount of avoidance, and after that they stack Stamina. That way, they maintain a balance between too much avoidance (leaving them rage starved) and too little (making them take crushing blows). Now many tanks are regearing to have maximum avoidance... a change that will gimp them for tanking BT and Hyjal.

Comentado por 105060

I think this is just what we needed. I've been watching tank avoidance go trough the roof from ssc/tk gear. This is just the bandade we needed. Altough a shortcut by blizz (but that's what they do best) it's completely acceptable in my opinion.

What troubles me tough is that we're in Sunwell Plateau, shouldn't we get that buff also? Tough that would just mean that expertise would be obsolete there and we wouldn't need that much hit to reach our cap. Mayby that's the gearcheck for Brutallus? 5% hit from gear ammounts to a nice boost in DPS.

Comentado por Abrin

While this is certainly a band-aid fix, note that according to EJ posters this buff disappears after Felmyst has been killed. That said, the boss this will effect the most will be Brutallus.

Comentado por elsydeon

just check one of the boss kill videos, should be able to see if the buff is there or not; ive seen videos of the twins and brutallus so finding the debuff shouldn't be hard

Comentado por 4466

This buff does not affect any mobs after Twins including Entropius, and Kil'Jaeden. This has been confirmed by multiple WWS parses and various threads on the EJ forums. I can also say from personal experience that Evasion is actually effective at saving my hide after Twins.

Comentado por 73809

Protection Pallies should check out this article: http://elitistjerks.com/blogs/theras/153-improving_sunwell_tanking_gear.html

Comentado por Thottbot

Buff that every mob in Sunwell Plateau has. Sucks for bear druids.

Comentado por abelni77

I have question. If i have less than 20% dodge, say 15%, do i only get -15% dodge or still -20%, which brings my dodge to negative 5%. If so, what's negative 5% dodge mean?

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