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Comentado por 61829

Quite possibly one of the worst talents in the game. Seems more in-line with a heavy retribution build ideally, rather than for tanking. And even then it doesn't shine much. Precision does more for a tankadin. Not to mention at this point in time the protection tree is bloated enough as it is, and another 5-point talent in here is always a no-no.

Avoid this one. There are better choices out there.

Comentado por 37463

Granted there may be better skills but this may not be as bad as it seems. Yes weapon skill took a nerf but there is some debate out there that it still seems quite valuable to tanks who are fighting raid bosses.

http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Weapon_Skill

Some are suggesting that when there is a difference of 3 levels (or more) between you and an NPC that there is an extra penalty on the defense vs weapon skill (ie. a difference greater than 10 skill points). So in gaining 5 weapon skill (reducing the difference fom 15 to 10) you could be gaining as much as 1% reduced miss, 1% increased crit, 3% reduced parry, and .5 reduced block/dodge. This would be a 4% pure chance to connect a blow and apply SoR damage that would normally not be applied. (since partial percentages are supposedly not applied to the attack tables) Unfortunately I'm not sure if anyone has absolutely verified these numbers yet. Keep trolling the forums...

What's odd here is that it increases by 2's so you are either going to get "too much" or not enough. This almost seems to suggest that those numbers are wrong and that the old pre-BC numbers of 0.1 chance per skill level still apply. If that's the case then getting the full 10 skill points would give you a full 1% reduction of boss mitigation and 1% increased crit against him.

Keep in mind that if you are human you already have 5 skill bonus by equipping a sword or mace.

If you have updated (and verified) info on how weapon skill works in BC please post a link.

Comentado por 71393

5/5 Weapon Expertise Against lvl73 Raid Bosses
(thanks to http://www.failsafedesign.com/maintankadin/ discussion and members ):

-2% Miss Chance
-1% Boss Dodge Chance
-6% Boss Parry Chance
+2% Critical Hit Chance

This is, despite all previous ignorance, quite possibly the best Agro generation talent Paladin Tanks have. The early misconceptions seem to be because 1) it is not a linear stat but depends on the difference between your Weapon Skill and enemy Defense Skill and 2) lack of itemization to fully test out the stat.

However, when the best geared and respected Paladin Tanks are championing this talent so heavily, you'd think they -just might- be onto something.

It is certainly better than Reckoning in raid tanking specs, which inversely scales and gets worse as our gear gets better.

Comentado por 37463

Reading from that pally tank site... there's a hidden benefit of reducing boss parries. Apparently bosses gain the same swing reduction time when they parry against you and will end up spiking their damage. This is especially important for us since we have less health and mitigation than warriors.

Comentado por 6100

Expertise is a new stat added in the 2.3. patch:

Expertise: We have added a new stat and associated rating called expertise and expertise rating. Expertise rating converts to expertise at the same rate that weapon skill rating formerly converted at. Each point of expertise reduces the chance for your attacks to be dodged or parried by 0.25%.

Comentado por 17624

The 10% stamina bonus from this, combined with 6% from 2/2 sacred duty (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/spell=31849) and 10% from kings, gives a VERY healthy buff to stamina. assuming moderate gear and the usual raid buffs, you should be expecting 13k ata MINIMUM, and thats with blues. Well geared palatanks are seeing 16-17k without gimping mitigation or spelldamage.

Comentado por 52664

Combat Expertise = +10% STA
Sacred Duty = +6% STA
Kings = +10% STA

Combined, 1 STA = 1.2826 STA

The Alpha WotLK Druid, Warrior, and Death Knight talent trees are out -- no changes to their STA/HP. From the way things currently look, unless itemization changes, Paladins at will be the kings of max HP by a wide margin.

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