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Comentado por Incendium

I'm sorry, but I couldn't resist.

Shadow priests melt/mend faces in PvP.

Comentado por Binary

Shadowform, while offering decent damage reduction and spell damage increase, can be a gimp in PvP.
I often find myself avoiding entering Shadowform in pvp so that I can heal myself after fights or even use Desperate Prayer during.

For grinding, however, this is perfect. Heals are replaced with Vampiric Embrace, which is increased by the shadow damage increase provided by Shadowform.

Comentado por 8153

As stated before, this ability is only really useful during grinding by yourself in areas to defeat large chains of enemies. Your experience per hour can easily jump 30% with this ability alone. The problem lies in the fact that no healing can be used making this form worthless in PvP and annoying your party members while in an instance or raid.

The sad truth on most servers is a Shadow Priest can be the downfall of a party that relies on them to be an effective healer as they tend to be more interested in damage output than healing. If you're looking for a group as a Shadow Priest, your best bet is to stay out of this form to avoid tempation.

Comentado por 9074

I think Shadowform lends the wrong perspective to aspiring shadowpriests. A priest is never and will never be a main damage class. Just like your group members' job is to keep you safe in PvP/PvE, your job is to keep the ones worth healing (not everyone, as the last comment mentions) up and doing the damage they can dish out. For those people that play a shadowpriest as a main dpser in raids, 5mans, and PvP, you'll probably quickly find that your dmg abilities leave you standing in the same spot too much for PvP and produce too much threat/dmg in PvE.

Consider going only partway into the Shadow talent tree to pick up some gems like Silence, Spirit Tap, Shadowweaving, and Mind Flay. Then... take a look at some of the amazing talents in Holy. Don't be stuck with the thought that Shadow == Damage, Holy == Healing, Discipline == Confused. It's simply untrue.

A well-played priest, not nessecarily a full shadow priest, will be the strongest and most well rounded for PvP and Leveling. For the good of your PvP and PvE group members, experiment away from Shadowform. ;-)

Comentado por 9545

Going shadow you have to have this. Melting faces to the max!

Comentado por 9250

Support and healing win fights, but damage is uber fun. Basically, if you want to win the battle, go shadowform. If you want to win the war, go heal.

Comentado por Mikezila

I don't know what Shadowform the above posters are talking about, but if I'm in the battlegrounds as my Priest (I like the level 49 bracket, personally), nobody can stop me while I'm in Shadowform. You do crazy dps. Your Pain drains health bars like water through a strainer, and your Mind Blasts hit like Mac trucks.

Sure I lose the ability to heal myself, but Mages and Warlocks can't heal themselves, and they manage. So do I. So what if I have to stand still a lot? Mages can't through Fireballs while they're running. Warlocks cant dish out Searing Pain or Shadow Bolt while they're running. Just use bandages and potions like everybody else, and let everyone else know that you're not there to be their healing bitch. I'm not saying don't heal, just drop the idea that that should be your primary job. By all means right-click that buff icon and save people that need saving, but make sure everyone knows that you're not there to follow them around and keep their green bars full.

If you just drop the mindset that you have to win fights by healing yourself, your outlook on the deep Shadow tree gets a whole lot better.

I'm not saying that Shadow/Disc/whatever builds don't have their own merit, but full Shadow, including "how I'm not everyones health nanny"-form, has it's own allure.

What I'm saying is that you should at least try Shadowform and see if the altered play style is to your liking. Don't be discouraged by the comments on this page.

Comentado por triviumtyrant

I was kind of going outside my opinion when I referred to using items and such as pathetic, so my fault on that part. I have always been able to clearly see the point that Merowlin was making, it's just that I see the same situation over and over again. Some person says that they can own someone else, and then they'll use a potion or a bandage or some other type of item, but if they didn't use that item they would've lost. I once dueled a 69 rogue when i was level 61 with about 3 or 4 outland items. It was about a 1 and 1/2 minute duel and I almost won but then the rogue bandaged and ended up just barely beating me. It's primarily based around perspective and opinion. I'm not on a "White Knight kick" or anything like that. It's just that from my perspective, I don't see how a person that uses items to help them win has more skill than people that don't use items to win. But just so I don't stray away from the Shadowform topic, I still don't like shadowform much at all. It's sounds/looks pretty good for pve from the technical facts that I've heard about it. As for pvp, I've seen and heard of better, but I still plan on testing that out with my priest.

Comentado por 53431

Shadowform is basically what is gonna push you up and over on the DPS charts.

Stack on the INT and SPI gear and get your Mind Blast fingers ready because faces will be melted.

And ignore the mages and rogues who complain, saying you should be Healer and not DPS. The charts don't lie.

Comentado por 10067

"Sure I lose the ability to heal myself, but Mages and Warlocks can't heal themselves, and they manage."

Well, that might be true for mages, but warlocks have Drain Life, Healthstones, and Siphon Life, so we can hold our own pretty well.

However, my advice for any Shadow priest is this: you're still a priest. There's a quest that priests can do in Brill in which the NPC reminds players that even though they have chosen the darker side of priesthood, they can still heal and buff their allies. That's excellent advice. If you want to play a Shadow priest, don't be stupid. Carry two sets of gear, a damage set and a healing set. Make sure your party knows you want to do damage, but don't be adverse to changing your role in the group and being a healer when the situation calls for it.

Comentado por 91023

Being a Shadow Priest and healing is all about situational awareness IMO, for example WSG is a personal favourite BG of mine and Spriests are very powerful there. We can kill the FC of the other faction in Shadow Form and support our FC out of Shadow. PoM, shield, renew, dispel, fear are all very helpful for keeping the flag moving towards your base.

Dropping Shadow and saving the game is worth it.

Comentado por 99860

Hai2u, Btw Bandage in duel is wrong Imo. Is the warr born with Bandage? No, but pallys are Born with healing, using pots and Bandage in duel is just wrong and stupid. in BG and Arena ofc use it, but Duel is for fun and skill not For whos best to bandage. Arena and BG main priority is to stay alive soo use ur bandage.

Btw u tards saying Shadow is wrong, i dunno what to say as far as i kno They rock. Lock and Priest ruin every singel Arena match i have so can't tell me It suxxz.

leveling a Priest atm and really looking forward to hit the higher lvls and get Shadowform.

Really liked your Comment mikezila;)

Comentado por pond

Shodowform is not all about PvP.

One reasonably geared shadow Priest played half decently can return on boss fights 200 mp5 to the 4 casters grouped with them.

Shadow Priests hunt best in packs.

Warriors are the staple diet of a Shadow Priest in PvP.

Shadow Priests mana regeneration is the reason all other healing classes haven't been replaced by Paladins in PvE raiding.

Shadow Priests are by definition 15% sexier than a holy/disc priest.

If you grouped with a Shadow Priest, and you see a mob running round with your Shadow Priest's dots on it, leave it alone, it is already dead, it just doesn't know it.

Shadow Priests melt faces.

Comentado por 130053

silly rabbit dot's r to be used in shadow form, don't switch out! also, it would be so so stupid to switch outta shadow form after dps'in someone. u wanna melt faces, so to speak, with some time casts too! so there u have it.

Comentado por 125904

you may cast discipline buffs and that tree while in shadowform.

Comentado por Ledynn

Ansver to your question funwithfire28 is yes, they do get that 15% plus damage if u leave shadowform, and yeah, warriors pwn spriests easily with the same gear level.
And pond... druids heal more efficiently than a paladin in raiding, paladins wouldnt be the only healer in pve if spriests wouldnt exist.

Comentado por 27986

Does the 15% physical damage reduction trigger before or after the damage is absorbed by PW:S?

Comentado por 120774

I really dont like how I almost never see any priests without shadow form. I get the fact it has obvious benefits, but COME ON, theres more to being a priest than lookin like a shadow.

Comentado por 152119

If u cast any holy spell while u are in shadowform u lose all your buffs.

Comentado por 131914

I agree that Shadowform does indeed melt faces.
The Main reason I like it is because it makes any gear look BADASS.
I hate it when my character looks bad. (early 60s *groan*)

Comentado por Thottbot

When you get to 60, yeah you could change from shadow form, but when lvling up shadow form is the best because it allows the priest to solo exceptionally well. So if you find a priest for an instance around 1-55, expect it to be shadow in most cases. Now I'm not saying everyone is shadow spec when it comes to priest, but you'll find alot of them at thoughs lvls.

Comentado por Thottbot

As a Shadow priest you will melt faces in PvP.

Comentado por Thottbot

I think I have just heard the stupidest thing ever. when my priest was 40 he took shadow form and I leveled faster than ne one in my guild not only that never lost a single pvp match. When we ran instances just took it off....healed no problem.

there is no reason not to do it. being specked in holy comes in handy now that I am doing mc and onxyia runs but to lvl to 60 anyone who dosent go in shadow form is a fool.

Comentado por Thottbot

This skill is the reason of thousands face meltings all over the world ^-^

Comentado por Thottbot

This ability transforms the priest into the highest damage dealer for lvl 40. Add VE and you have a pretty good group healer and secondary tank. A shadowform priest with a little shadow gear on can easily solo elites of equal lvl. And i don't have to mention the PWNing in PvP. This makes more than faces melt.

Comentado por Thottbot

sorry to add another comment to the greatest ability in the game, but at lvl 40, i can go to Swamp of sorrows and SOLO 42 elite green scale guys, and wyrmkin......priest.....

Comentado por Thottbot

Considering that you already had to level your other shadow talents on the way up (dmg +10%, improved sw pain), the damage bonus from Shadowform makes the priest world a better place. No more complaining that this form sucks because priests should heal... they turn it off and return to healing and buffing in an instant.

Comentado por Thottbot

I am a shadow priest. I run instances. but guess what I do NOT I repeat NOT main heal.

OMG GASP SHOCK

I off heal for the main healer if need be but I am pure damage pure ownage shadow preist. I do as much damage as a warlock. and with my talents I GET NO AGRO. 45% reduction to agro with shadowspells. I can do as much damage as a mage or warlock with out worrying about getting agro. I can also off heal for the main healer and I can res. for all you people that say Preists have to main heal I am out there to prove you wrong.

Comentado por Thottbot

'Shadow Form' is fantastic. +15% to Shadow DMG and -15% to physical DMG, it's a dream come true for a cloth wearing class! I bet Mage's wouldn't say no to such a form.

Using 'Vampiric Embrace' does allow for a slight amount of healing, but it is only a small percentage (20%), yet it also heals everyone in the party which makes up for lack of healing it does. With other shadow spells being cast upon the "embraced" target, such as 'Mind Flay' and 'Mind Blast' (don't forget the 'Shadow Word: Pain' DoT) then that 20% soon adds up.

As already pointed out several times, the Priest can come out of 'Shadow Form' at any given time to allow the Priest to heal themselves or others around them.

'Shadow Form' does help greatly in PvP and allows the Priest to deal a good amount of DMG, especially when paired with other spells such as 'Fear' and 'Power Word: Shield.' However, because of a Priest's healing abilities, they are targetted almost right away on the battle field and so do have a hard time. Please remember this, Warriors/Tanks ;)

Well that's just my two-cents on the subject. Hope this clears things up a little in one simple, easy to understand post.

- Olin

Comentado por Thottbot

15% does indeed help alot.

For example, my 'Mind Blast' (at level 40) on average hits for say (let's round it off) 350. 15% of 350 is 47.5, so I'll hit for 397.5 instead. This helps alot, and could be the extra damage needed to bring down that Tauren Warrior that's charing at you ;)

PVP? Never done it really. I'm not bothering with it too much, plus I heal in PVP.

Yes, Shadow wands should indeed be amplified by Shadow Form. This is a good point and maybe should be answered by a more experienced Priest player.

Hope this helps.

Comentado por Thottbot

Wand (shadow) damage does NOT recieve a boost from shadowform nor any other priest talent besides "Wand Specialization".

Comentado por Thottbot

I cant belive it - someone is actually asking if this talent is worth it? :P

Well, do the numbercrunching. While going down towards shadowform you get (or should/can get) the following:

Improves SW:P
Improved Mind Blast
Mind Flay
Shadow Weaving
Darkness
And then Shadowform

And thats just the damage talents! With all this added together, it suddenly becomes VERY likable :)

Comentado por Thottbot

In addition to my post above, i wanted to show you guys some number crunching, so that there is no arguing that shadowform is indeed worth it.

In order to get shadowform, you would of course have to spend talents in there. You'd be a fool if you at least didn't get these:

# Shadow Weaving - 5/5 points
Your Shadow damage spells have a 100% chance to cause your target to be vulnerable to Shadow damage. This vulnerability increases the Shadow damage dealt to your target by 3% and lasts 15 seconds. Stacks up to 5 times.

Total voulnability = 15%

# Darkness - 5/5 points
Increases your Shadow spell damage by 10%

And then theres shadowform itself = 15%

Level 40 mind blast does an averege of 288 damage. With these 40% extra, it would do an avarege of 403,2, and thats just for a 1.5 cast. You get 115,2 more damage! Now think about SW:P and mind flay also, and whatever you feel like throwing at them - your damage will GREATLY improve :)

Comentado por Thottbot

does this work like the druid's shapeshifts (it is a shapeshift afterall) and grant u immunity to polymorph? it's unlikely, but it would be cool
and on more thing:
can u cast holy based spell in the discipline tab? it doesn't say "u can only cast discipline and shadow" but u "u can't cast holy" and many discipline spells are in the holy school

Comentado por Thottbot

what about stop whining and learn to play?

Comentado por Thottbot

In a raid, stick four Locks and a shadowpriest together in one group. The Priest's Vampiric Embrace means they can pretty much do without needing a healer's attention, Shadow Weaving basically gives you five Locks' DPS for the price of four, plus you've got Curse Of Shadows from the locks for even more damage. Couple that with the fact that Priests have about the best DOT in the game (Shadow Word: Pain) and one of the most mana-efficient damage spells (Mind Flay) and the damage potential of your "Shadow Crew" can be absolutely insane.

Only problem is when you then get five people arguing over +shadow drops ^_^

Comentado por Thottbot

Which race is best for this? Or that probably doesnt matter so...which looks coolest :D

Comentado por Thottbot

Shadowform also makes you take 15% less damage. Combine this with improved Inner Fire and you got a platewearing (well, almost :p)self-healing dps machine that also gives health and mana to his party.

About looks, it makes you all dark with a nice aura and all :D very very evil >:D I think it looks coolest on male blood elves, male undeads and humans.

Comentado por Thottbot

You get it when you have 30 points in the shadow talent tree, so the earliest you can get it is level 40

Comentado por Thottbot

yes it does switch your main action bar like a stance or shapeshift form. So you can fill it however you like, or make it the same as your normal action bar.

btw, dps shadow mages are well loved in high lvl dungeons. Leave the healing for pallies my brothers...and sisters!

Comentado por Thottbot

edit: I meant shadow priest, not shadow mage haha, but u will drop bombs like Hiroshima in this form.

Comentado por Thottbot

1. A mount's color effects the way you appear in shadowform. Darker mounts make you appear more black while lightly colored mounts edge more toward violet. The brown gryphon mount takes on a maroon color.

2. Shadowform is transparent! Try riding through different zones to see how the shade changes (this is especially fun if you have a lighter colored mount). In some zones or at certain times of day shadowform may look almost blue.

3. Shadowform leaves a trail of purple and green dust. When you walk it comes from your feet, when you ride it comes out your mount's butt!

4. If you target yourself in shadowform your body glows white.

5. No matter how mismatched and goofy your armor is, you're always fashionable in black.

Comentado por Thottbot

Q - Can shadowform be dispelled?
A - No. Shadowform is considered a stance, just like a warrior's stances. The buff it applies to you has no type.

Q - Does the buff for shadowform ever run out?
A - No. The shadowform stance is infinite.

Q - What spell can't I cast while in shadowform?
A - Any spell in the holy tree is uncastable. However, things in the discipline tree are still castable despite being of the holy school. I'll try to be as comprehensive here as possible:

List of spells you can't cast: (Lesser)(Greater)Heal, Renew, Smite, Holy Fire, Chastise, Prayer of Healing, Prayer of Mending, Holy Nova, Desperate Prayer, Cure/Abolish disease, Resurrection, Circle of Healing (not that its possible to get it and shadow form).

List of spells you can still cast that are in the holy school: Shackle Undead, Dispel, PW:Fortitude, Divine Spirit, Inner Focus, PW:Shield, Mass Dispel, Fear Ward (finally), Elune's Grace (not sure what school this one is).

Q - Is the physical damage reduction noticeable?
A - If you respec and get shadowform at level 40, it is the second most noticeable benefit from the stance. You will take much less physical damage. In PvP at much later levels, the reduction is not as noticeable but it still helps a lot.

Q - Does your mount change color?
A - Your mount gains the shadowform visible effect while you are riding it. It has the same deep purple transparency effect that is applied to your character. Personally, I think this is a bug that they decided to leave in (lets face it: it looks cool!).

Q - Does switching to shadowform invoke any cooldown?
A - Casting shadowform invokes the 1.5s (or lower, depending on haste) global cooldown. No other cooldowns are required to start casting spells.

Q - Does cancelling shadowform invoke the global cooldown?
A - Not anymore. It used to behave this way, but now cancelling shadowform does nothing to the global cooldown.

Q - What happens if I try to cast a holy tree spell while in shadowform?
A - You will lose the shadowform stance and start casting the holy spell. If this is not the behavior that you want, there is an option buried in the UI somewhere to prevent this from happening.

Q - Should I worry about rearranging my action/hotkey bars so that I can switch to shadowform and have abilities ready right away?
A - There is no need for this anymore. With a recent patch, shadowform gained a special action bar that pops up when you enter shadowform. It functions exactly the same as a rogue's stealth bar, a druid's form bars, etc.

Q - Is entering shadowform mana intensive?
A - Personally, I hadn't really noticed the mana cost of shadowform until about level 68. At 70, the cost to enter shadowform is, well, a lot.

Q - Can I reduce the mana cost of entering shadowform at all?
A - The only way that I know to reduce the mana cost of entering shadowform is the discipline talent that reduces the mana cost of all instant cast spells.

Q - Can enemies tell that I am in shadowform?
A - A legit question. Apart from the transparent purply glow eminating from you, the shadowform buff is visible to your opponents. This is in contrast to warriors: their current stance is unknown to the enemy until they use some giveaway ability.

Q - Should I respec and get shadowform at level 40?
A - This is a matter of personal preference. Myself, I found that the added DPS made soloing stuff a lot more fun than it was just one level earlier. There are many ways to level a priest, though, so do whatever you think is most fun.

Q - Can I enter shadowform while on a mount/flight path, like how warriors can change stances?
A - This is not currently possible, as shadowform is a spell. If you try this and you are on a ground mount, you will automatically dismount. Note that you can cancel shadowform while riding a mount or flight path and you will not automatically be dismounted. You and your mount return to your normal-looking state.

Q - Can I enter shadowform while silenced?
A - No.

Q - Can I enter shadowform when I am counterspelled?
A - If the shadow school has been counterspelled or kicked, no. If any other school was counterspelled, then of course.

Q - When is the +15% to shadow spell damage buff applied?
A - The +15% is applied at a very late time when calculating how much damage you do to something. It is applied after standard spellpower boosts that you have via +spelldamage gear. Therefore, the +15% at level 40 with +10 spelldamage is just as effective at increasing your overall DPS as the +15% is at level 70 with 900 spelldamage.

Q - Does the shadowform damage amplification stack with other amplifiers?
A - Shadowform's shadow damage amplification stacks with every single damage amplifier in the game. +10% darkness, +10% shadow weaving, +5% misery, +15% shadowform, +1/2% improved sanctity aura, +xx% curse of shadows, +20% improved shadowbolt -- all of these stack together, and none of them cancel another one out.

Q - How often do you typically need to exit shadowform while soloing?
A - With a good amount of spirit, I never exited shadowform while soloing. If I needed to cast a utility spell, like resurrection, or cure a disease, then I left the stance.

Q - How often do you typically need to exit shadowform while instancing?
A - Same answer as above. Generally, if you are the only resurrecting class in the group prepare to exit frequenty.

Q - How often do you typically need to exit shadowform while pvp-ing?
A - Prior to level 61, you never need to exit shadowform while PvP-ing. After that, resillience and other class buffs will make fights last a lot longer than they used to. I found shadowform to be less fun than it used to be at level 60, but your results may vary.

Q - Can I still heal if I spec for shadowform?
A - Yes, but not nearly as well as in other specs. Expect your healing numbers to plummet, and expect everyone in PvP to complain about how greedy you are if you stay in shadowform all the time.

Q - Is it possible to instance with a priest who likes to use shadowform?
A - It is not only possible, but highly desired! Shadowform priests (aka shadow priests) provide a great deal of group health and mana regeneration utility. Up until level 70 or so, shadowform priests doing DPS stay right alongside most other classes when it comes to sheer damage output. Late in the raid game at 70, shadowform priest damage levels off to keep them from generating too much threat.

Q - If I get shadowform, does that mean I no longer have to heal in groups?
A - It depends what you are doing. If you are before level 60, absolutely not. If you are doing a heroic instance, you should never be healing if you have a point in shadowform. Adjust to the groups needs, and be prepared to revert to a healing role if needed. If you are seriously having trouble keeping the group alive, don't bury your problem! Tell your group to slow things down, or that you aren't up to the task. They will thank you for it in the end.

Comentado por Allakhazam

cool.. its good.. I have shadow specc, but i dont use it in PvP.. I need my heals too much

Comentado por Allakhazam

HAH, priest dosn't have fire macemanvivid.

Comentado por Allakhazam

When I get it, i'll only use it in ballegrounds and mass oudoor PvP, as healing is ghey there =P

Comentado por Allakhazam

Sounds like Shadow spec. Priest is the best class for me... I play as a LvL 34 Arcane Spec. Mage which is cool but being a shadow priest and having ALL that shadow damage power to harm people with spells that what I wanted from an arcane mage! so I dont know...
I guess its alt time! :)

Comentado por Allakhazam

Soon you will all realize that shadowpriests are hated by all members in a guild. it barely worth having in battlegrounds.

Healing priest is helping the group better in all situations. so shadowpriset = noguild or friends to play with.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Being a Shadowpriest just rocks. I use it for everything and with having every spec in Shadow, except for the 5 points in Discipline (Wand specialization), As Shadowpriest love anything with Spirit (currently 277 Spirit at level 49, but could be much more) the Shadowpriest doesn't need much healing and/or mana potions at all.

I have been a tank in several instances and amazed warriors (damn good experienced ones) as I defeat mobs and enemy NPC's faster than them and without hardly any damage (Thanks to PW Shield).

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