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Comentado por 70690

Where in Blackrock Depths can this npc be found ??

Comentado por 82238

You say he is at the bar? Now, could someone then tell me where the bar is?

Preferably by using the numbers on the BRD map below as reference, seeing as I do not have a coord mod.

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/screenshot=view&7.1584#1456

Also, are the enchanting recipes (and other of his recipes for that matter) reputation dependant?

Comentado por Frosties

How do you get from Neutral to friendly ??? any tricks??

Comentado por 17624

Faction rep guide HERE:
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/faction=59

It's very easy to get to honoured, and very slow/expensive to get past that.

Comentado por 12719

Could someone actually describe how to get from the entrance to the Grim Guzzler? The map shows where it is, but not what passages, stairways, etc to take. I can likely stealth all the way to it if I had clear directions. And I do have the shadowforge key.

Comentado por Gorbal

Lokhtos sells his recipes depending on your faction with the Thorium Brotherhood.

Friendly

Transmute: Elemental Fire (Alchemy 300)
Dark Iron Bracers (Blacksmithing 295)
Enchant Weapon - Strength (Enchanting 290)
Molten Helm (Leatherworking 300)
Corehound Boots (Leatherworking 295)
Flarecore Gloves (Tailoring 300)

Honored

Fiery Chain Girdle (Blacksmithing 295)
Dark Iron Helm (Blacksmithing 300)
Dark Iron Destroyer (Blacksmithing 300)
Dark Iron Reaver (Blacksmithing 300)
Enchant Weapon - Mighty Spirit (Enchanting 300)
Lava Belt (Leatherworking 300)
Black Dragonscale Boots (Leatherworking 300)
Flarecore Mantle (Tailoring 300)
Flarecore Robe (Tailoring 300)

Revered

Fiery Chain Shoulders (Blacksmithing 300)
Dark Iron Leggings (Blacksmithing 300)
Dark Iron Gauntlets (Blacksmithing 300)
Black Amnesty (Blacksmithing 300)
Blackfury (Blacksmithing 300)
Enchant Weapon - Mighty Intellect (Enchanting 300)
Chromatic Gauntlets (Leatherworking 300)
Molten Belt (Leatherworking 300)
Corehound Belt (Leatherworking 300)
Flarecore Leggings (Tailoring 300)

Exalted

Dark Iron Boots (Blacksmithing 300)
Nightfall (Blacksmithing 300)
Ebon Hand (Blacksmithing 300)
Blackguard (Blacksmithing 300)

Comentado por 38207

After the recent patch (2.4.2 I think was the numbers) I went down to the bar on a rogue who was I believed honored with the brotherhood. and all patterns listed had no rep requirement on them any longer. was I missing it or has it been changed to such? If anyone can confirm/debunk that would be great.

Comentado por Dantarahma

To answer any questions anyone has about this rep vendor....

If you go to the bar at any rep lvl and you want to see what he sells, READ what the question is to get the the purchaseable items.

It reads "Show me what I have access to, Lokhtos"

This means that he will only show what you have access to, NOT everything he sells. So, you have to be exalted to be able to see his whole list of purchaseables. Things you can't learn (since we can only have 2 profs) will still appear red no matter your rep.

At friendly you'll only see the "friendly purchaseable" options. Where as, at honored you'll see honored and friendly ones, and soforth....

Hope that helps out, and makes its so ppl make fewer trips to this guy with hopes of a "limited quantity" item. He has none, but all recipes are BOP, so buying multiple is a waste of funds.

Sadly he doesn't repair, that would be nice. /booo

Comentado por Thottbot

He adds recipes at each level. Most of them are Armorsmithing, but there is 1 Swordsmith and an Axesmith at Exalted.

Comentado por Thottbot

Does the faction here do anything for the Darkiron Dwarf in Everlook?
I have not been able to speak with the dwarf in Everlook. I am thinking that he gives Thorium quest as the Mithril Brotherhood did in Orgrimmar , Booty Bay , and Gadgetzan (as far as horde goes , i think).
I have just started donating my Darkiron the the dwarf in BRD , (bastage) looks like a many a day will be spent in BRD.

In summary , feel free to keep my on tack.
Mine Darkiron...
Donate Darkiron..
Mine Darkiron , hoping for Plans to drop.
Donate to the spirit (grom ell or Doom ell have to check which one)..to enable smelting..Takes (20) gold bars , (10) TrueSilver bars , (2) Star rubies. * info from previous posts * donation to enable smelting, unsure if before or after fights.
Keep mining Darkiron both hoarding and smelting.
Question; Are all the plans from the Darkiron vendor droppable?
Forge is behind room of the seven undead Darkiron dwarfs (or close to there)?
Anvil is at named Fire Elemental?
Darkiron vendor/questgiver/hog of all darkiron is in tavern..Couldnt get quests at 58th level can get quests at 60th , so it is somewhere in there..

That summarizes all info that I have been able to gather.
Bottom line, if you aren't serious about putting in the time in BRD don't bother. Spend the time learn the layout and pass along any further useful info.
I think this is a long term endeavor for the top end smiths. Resists are essential for MC as was said in previous post.

Emirikel
60th lvl
Tauren
Armorsmith (278)
Nathrezim

Comentado por Thottbot

http://www.wowwiki.com/Thorium_Brotherhood

The above link will tell u what u can get at friendly/honored/revered/exalted.

Comentado por Thottbot

Ive finally got to Honored doing the kingsblood, then dark iron residue. That wasnt to bad money wise, but turing in 2400 dark iron to get to revered is just insane. Once there you get item recipes that require MC drops, so its a waste if you are not doing MC alot. I hope to see more ways to get faction form these guys and more ways to get the MC drops for the smaller guilds that cant get enough to get there.

Groguk
60 Orc Warrior
Master Axesmith
Black Circle Trading Co.
Windrunner

Comentado por Thottbot

There r 2 reasons why u want to be exalted with these guys...

One is that u get recepies for dark iron gear (FR)... if u gear up ur MT with these u will have a much grater chanse of tanking and killing Ragnaros...

Secound one is that if u r exalted and hand in a "Sulfuron Ingot" u will get the plans for the "Sulfuron hammer" witch later on can be made into "Sulfuras, Hand of Ragnaros"

Thats the reason u want to get exalted...

Comentado por Thottbot

Full list of Thorium brotherhood items here:

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/basics/factions/thorium/vendor.html

Comentado por Thottbot

Friendly:
- Plans: Dark Iron Bracers
- Pattern: Corehound Boots
- Pattern: Flarecore Gloves
- Pattern: Molten Helm
Honored:
- Plans: Fiery Chain Girdle
- Plans: Dark Iron Helm
- Plans: Dark Iron Reaver
- Plans: Dark Iron Destroyer
- Pattern: Flarecore Mantle
- Pattern: Flarecore Robe
- Pattern: Black Dragonscale Boots
- Pattern: Lava Belt
- Formula: Enchant Weapon - Mighty Spirit
- Formula: Enchant Weapon - Strength
Revered:
- Plans: Fiery Chain Shoulders
- Plans: Dark Iron Gauntlets
- Plans: Dark Iron Leggings
- Plans: Blackfury
- Plans: Black Amnesty
- Pattern: Chromatic Gauntlets
- Pattern: Corehound Belt
- Pattern: Molten Belt
- Pattern: Flarecore Leggings
- Formula: Enchant Weapon - Mighty Intellect
Exalted:
- Plans: Ebon Hand
- Plans: Blackguard
- Plans: Nightfall
- Plans: Dark Iron Boots

Here you have the items you need for each rep level.

neutral --> friendly = 3000 rep
friendly --> honored = 6000 rep
honored --> revered = 12000 rep
revered --> exalted = 21000 rep

neutral --> friendly
* turn in: 4x kingsblood, 2x incendosaur scale, 1x coal turn
= 25 rep (27.5 for humans) each turn in
= 1200x heavy leather, 240x incendosaur scale, 120x coal (-10% for humans)

* turn in: 10x heavy leather, 2x incendosaur scale, 1x coal
= 25 rep (27.5 for humans) each turn in
= 480x kingsblood, 240x incendosaur scale, 120x coal (-10% for humans)

* turn in: 4x Iron Bar, 2x incendosaur scale, 1x coal
= 25 rep (27.5 for humans) each turn in
= 480x Iron Bar, 240x incendosaur scale, 120x coal (-10% for humans)

friendly --> honored
* turn in: 4x dark iron residue
= 25 rep (27.5 for humans) each turn in
= 960x Residue (-10% for humans)

honored --> revered
* turn in: 10x dark iron ore
= 50 rep (55 rep for humans) each turn in
= 2400 ore (-10% for humans)

* turn in 2x core leather
= 150 rep (165 rep for humans) each turn in
= 160 leather (-10% for humans)

* turn in 1x fiery core or 1x lava core or 1x blood of the Mountain
= 200 rep (220 for humans) each turn in
= 60 cores/botm (-10% for humans)

revered --> exalted
same as above except:

4200 ore (-10% for humans)
280 leather (-10% for humans)
105 cores/botm (-10% for humans)

Have fun getting exalted :)
Sunburst, lvl 60 Paladin

And you start getting rep from
Master Smith Burninate <The Thorium Brotherhood> at Thorium Point in Searing Gorge

Comentado por Thottbot

You can find him in the back corner in the bar. There is a small room on the top level to the far left.

Comentado por Thottbot

I've been to this bar twice now, both times I was in a full party. Is it possible to get to the bar solo? Or is it recommended to have a full party every time you do a faction turn in?

Also, from what I've read, if you are planning on raising faction with the TB, it seems you better start planning lots of trips to this bar...correct?

Uthgardt

Comentado por Thottbot

Okay, first of all this is Blizzard's oppurtunity to you to get FR for MC. MC is a 40 man instance. The huge amounts required for this Faction SHOULD NOT be coming from one person. The entire guild should be contributing to these amounts. It's worth it if you want to take down high FR encounters like Ragnaros. Good luck guys.

Comentado por Thottbot

for the traid in quest part for building up you rep the has to be a fast way then clicking is there not a macro that we can make to speed this proses up

Comentado por Thottbot

How do I smelt dark iron ore? Do I have to be a smithy to do this?

Comentado por Thottbot

I got my rep up within about an hour, but now I have to somehow get into BRD. Is it safe to stealth to the bar? I'm a 48 rogue and I really want that transmute heart of fire into essensce of fire ;_;

Comentado por Thottbot

I am honored with the Thorium Brotherhood, but when I made it to Lokhtos, I didn't see any of the turn in quests available to me. I suspect that it is because of my level (level 53). Does anyone know at what level the turn in quests become available, such as dark iron ore and Blood of the Mountain?

Comentado por Thottbot

I'm at honored. I have a tonne of darkironore, some blood of the mountain and a few lava cores. I get in a PuG and we actually make it to the bar without the grp falling appart.

And he doesnt give me the rep turn in quests......wtf?

I'm at Honored with them.....

*sigh*

Comentado por Thottbot

How do you learn how to smelt Dark iron ore?

Comentado por Thottbot

It matters to the people love to play and experience the content! I am sick of all these people saying running Molten Core and the like is worthless. If nothing else it provides vital raid experience where there a huge gap now thanks to TBC. I don't know how many fresh 70s i've grouped with lately that has no idea what they are doing in a raid environment. Furthermore, I don't know about you but the availability of Fire Resist gear isn't all that great at 70 either. Plus getting faction with the Brotherhood and doing MC runs and alot of work, can still yield the Sulfuras. I don't know bout you but I'll swing a legendary at 70 even though its a 60 weapon its still one BADA** weapon.

Comentado por Thottbot

i mean what are the cods? and were?

Comentado por Thottbot

Read the above posts.

1. He's in the Bar. As there are no maps for instances that give co-ords (as far as I know) I cant give them.

2. It seems now that so long as you have the required skill you can use his patterns. I just went in there and found that you no longer need "reverred" etc for what he sells.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Is doing his quests the only way to gain Thorium Brotherhood faction or is there a less expensive way?

Comentado por Allakhazam

My guess is that's why the guy's name is 'darkbargainer'. But /agreed, there should be some monsters you can kill to get faction points. It's incredibly hard for a normal player to get the corehound recipe, let alone any of the revered/exalted ones.

Comentado por Allakhazam

I recently visited here smashing thru (and dying twice) with my 70 warrior and this guy just sells plans. They do not require reputation. I think they spawn at different times but, they did not require any rep

Comentado por Allakhazam

Get the reputation mod that gives concrete numbers for any change in factions

10 DI ore = 50 pts
All other turnins = 200 pts

3000/6000/12000/21000 pts for friendly/hon/rev/exalted (noncumlative, 42k total)

Be aware a new grindable quest (no idea when/if it caps) is coming in 1.5 and doing all the imperial plate blacksmith quests in tanaris (270 thorium) is worth 1150 pts or so

Comentado por Allakhazam

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-professions&t=1&p=3

Comentado por Allakhazam

at honored faction i was able to get the flarecore glove, shoulder, and robe patterns and the enchant str and spirit.
only thing i'm missing now is +22 int and flarecore leggs... i asume that is at revered and if so that means 40 CORE LEATHER turn ins, 2 each... that's really kinda nuts

Comentado por Allakhazam

From http://www.wowwiki.com/Thorium_Brotherhood

Weaponsmithing Plans

* Dark Iron Reaver - Swordsmith, Honored Faction
* Dark Iron Destroyer - Axesmith, Honored Faction
* Black Amnesty - Weaponsmith, Revered Faction
* Blackfury - Weaponsmith, Revered Faction
* Blackguard - Swordsmith, Exalted Faction
* Nightfall - Axesmith, Exalted Faction
* Ebon Hand - Hammersmith, Exalted Faction
* Sulfuron Hammer - all Blacksmiths can obtain this. To receive the plans you must bring a single Sulfuron Ingot which drops from Golemagg the Incinerator (drop rates: Thottbot / Allakazam). You need to be revered with the Thorium Brotherhood and have an ingot in your inventory when you speak to him to receive the plans.

Now, once you actually craft the hammer (mats costs several thousand gold), you will want to obtain an Eye of Sulfuras, which has an even lower drop percentage (from Ragnaros). Combine the Sulfuron Hammer with the Eye of Sulfuras and you will get the legendary hammer, Sulfuras, Hand of Ragnaros.

Armorsmithing Plans

* Dark Iron Bracers - Friendly Faction
* Dark Iron Helm - Honored Faction
* Fiery Chain Girdle - Honored Faction
* Fiery Chain Shoulders - Revered Faction
* Dark Iron Gauntlets - Revered Faction
* Dark Iron Leggings - Revered Faction
* Dark Iron Boots - Exalted Faction

Tailoring Patterns

* Flarecore Gloves - Friendly Faction (8g)
* Flarecore Mantle - Honored Faction (18g)
* Flarecore Robe - Honored Faction (6g)
* Flarecore Leggings - Revered Faction (8g)

Leatherworking Patterns

* Lava Belt - Leatherworking, Honored Faction
* Molten Helm - Elemental Leatherworking, Friendly Faction
* Corehound Boots - Tribal Leatherworking, Friendly Faction
* Black Dragonscale Boots - Dragonscale Leatherworking, Honored Faction
* Molten Belt - Elemental Leatherworking, Revered Faction
* Corehound Belt - Tribal Leatherworking, Revered Faction
* Chromatic Gauntlets - Dragonscale Leatherworking, Revered Faction

Enchanting Formulas

* Enchant Weapon - Strength - Friendly Faction
* Enchant Weapon - Mighty Spirit - Honored Faction
* Enchant Weapon - Mighty Intellect - Revered Faction

Alchemy Recipes

* Transmute: Elemental Fire - Friendly Faction *New as of 1.9*

Comentado por Allakhazam

whats the corrds for this guy...i cant find him

Comentado por Allakhazam

In a raid guild, this isnt hard at all. Master looter is always the GM, and all cores go towards gear if its needed, otherwise they are used for rep. lava/firey cores arnt REALLY needed, as they are ment for FR. If you run MC weekly to Rag, then do farming runs 4-5 times a week, Exalted reputation isnt that hard.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Now I managed to get a group for BRD and happen to come across this fellow. Seeing as I had a decent amount of Dark Iron ore, I wanted to turn them in for faction. When I got to him he did not have any quests available for turn-ins and i'm honored with TB. So what I figured (and what I'm wondering) is you have to be a certain lvl. Can anyone confirm this or tell me. Thanks.

Edited, Jan 3rd 2007 3:21pm by EvilTux

Comentado por Allakhazam

Anyone know how many turn-ins it takes to gain access to the different plans?

Comentado por Allakhazam

How does alliance get the faction with him? Im at 260 BS and I want to start to get faction with dark iron guys now but all of the quests are horde specific, can any1 help me?

Comentado por Allakhazam

you turn in stuff you get from molten core. I'm a gnome mage and have been turning in stuff for faction for a while

Comentado por Allakhazam

Where is this guy in BRD?

Comentado por Allakhazam

does reaching this guy require running part of the instance?

Comentado por Allakhazam

Just as a heads up, i recently got honored with them. But how the hell am i supposed to get revered? That's alot of expensive mats. Any idea if there are any more grindable quests? I did them all so ya...

Comentado por Allakhazam

these quests cant be done at 57, what level is needed and if, like the dark iron residue quest, it requires faction, what faction is required?

Comentado por Allakhazam

Corehound Boots, Molten Helm, Dark Iron bracers and Flarecore Gloves only require Friendly reputation. We just got there on 2 characters and can now make Corehound Boots and Dark Iron Bracers.

Comentado por Allakhazam

It seems that Lokhtor got the new plans we were promised - anybody can share what faction is needed? I am particularly interested in Flamecore Robe and Leggings....

Thanks

Comentado por Allakhazam

Lokhtos is located in the Grim Guzzler, deep within Blackrock Depths. He is the reputation vendor for the Thorium Brotherhood, and also gives and receives several TB reputation quests.

The bar is location (9) on the (un-annotated) map on this site:
you use the Atlas AddOn or instance maps from AtlasMod.com
http://www.atlasmod.com/Maps/BlackrockDepths.jpg
the Grim Guzzler bar (15) is the next stop after defeating Angelforge in the West Garrison (13) and Argelmach in the Manufactory(14).

Stealthing is entirely possible, however there are two locks to overcome:

1) passing s and entering the East Garrison (for Shadowforge Key, see quest: "Dark Iron Legacy", obtained from Franclorn Forgewright when you are in Dead/Ghost form ONLY)
Legado dos Ferro Negro opening the West Garrison gate by "using" the mechanism in the lower level (just inside the entry) of the East Garrison

List of Lokhtos items, listed according to reputation requirements, is found here:
http://www.^&*!@#$%^&.com/wow/reputation.html under "Thorium Brotherhood Reputation"

Edited, Sep 19th 2006 at 5:33pm EDT by Arlique

Comentado por Allakhazam

okay, how "freindly" do i hve to get with them to buy these wondrous plans?

Comentado por Allakhazam

not 40 core leather for revered.. but 160 core leather. and well its doable. :]

Comentado por Allakhazam

He's located in the Bar at BRD.

Inkx
60 huntress of Elune

Comentado por Allakhazam

Once inside BRD at this quest giver, can I solo these quests? Or I still need the party with me?

Quests
# Favor Amongst the Brotherhood, Blood of the Mounta
# Favor Amongst the Brotherhood, Core Leather
# Favor Amongst the Brotherhood, Dark Iron Ore

lvl 60 Warrior, 300 miner 275 Blacksmith

Comentado por Allakhazam

Anyone know of a link that shows what plans are available at what faction level?

Comentado por Allakhazam

Hes at Bar ;E

Comentado por zafira

If you are looking for the enchant formulas in wow classic dont waste your time like i did, they aren't available until phase 3... i was there today and only found the tailor, LW and BS patterns!

Comentado por Smindigo

/script SelectGossipAvailableQuest(x)
/script CompleteQuest()
/script GetQuestReward()

Where x is the quest's position on the hand in panel.
To auto hand in the items for rep use the above macro.

Comentado por nikkosan

8.3.0 BFA update
One turn-in gives you 2000 rep so you need about 40 lava core or fiery core from neutral to exalted.

Comentado por musclemonkeh

A question about Rep/Standing:

I know that once we hit TBC the specialty of leatherworking, etc, no longer is limiting for learning patterns. So my dragonscale leatherworker can suddenly learn tribal and elemental patterns. Did something similar happen to standing/rep? I only ask because I notice that that column is notably empty for many, but not all, of the classic vendors with special faction rep requirements (in this case, Thorium Brotherhood).

I suppose one way to find out is to run my lvl 70 down into BRD and pay Lohktos a visit, but thought I would ask here first. If I do investigate, I'll post an answer as a reply.

Lokhtos Umbrarganha <A Irmandade do Tório>

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