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Comentado por 27746

I can make these on the Realm ''Moonglade'' on HORDE side some smart Guy went out and farmed for this Recipe! i love it!

Nice to stack it with the 15+ agility enchant on gloves. AND 5% is pretty nice if you are an Melee class!

I myself hit for fire damage 2-3 times in one WSG run on my twink! /w Torey or /w Sopia on Moonglade for more info!

PS: Red Whelp Scale '' https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=7287 '' Can only be found in Wetlands!
And the Skinn rate on these are quite big! i got 12 in 30 mins!

Comentado por 41676

They are nice for low level feral druid.
Druid in cat form has got speed 1.0.
It procs one time per ~20 hits --> one time per 20 sec.
It deals average 20 dmg.
So it deals 20 dmg over 20 secs -> 1 dmg over 1 sec -> 1 DPS = +14ap.

There is no better AP leather gloves on level 20. Think about it you have a 20lvl druid alt. ;)

Got it on Horde side character. Booty Bay FTW!

Cya, Szatek (known as Analzai on Mealstrom)

Comentado por Killerolav

getting this on my rogue alt =)

imagine fiery weapon on both weapons, these gloves, instant poison and https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=6220 ...procs every single hit ftw =D

Comentado por 53267

Theoretically, the comparison between these gloves and plain- out strength, or agility (for rogues) would be like this:

Rogue: best possible for 1.3 speed would be 2x Poniard https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=2208.
1 damage per hit means 0,77 damage per second per weapon means 1,54 dps added. For a rogue, counting only +1 AP from 1 AGI, that equals 21,54 Agility.
Pretty sick, try finding gloves that give that much AGI...

For a druid in Cat form, which has 1,0 attack speed, this means 1 dps added, equaling 14strength/AGI. Again, pretty sick.

But of course, for all classes but Cat form druids, only fast weapons mean something with this. For example a Shaman with a 2.2 speed 1h mace would get 1 damage per hit means 6,4 strength.

Comentado por 97145

One should note it does fire damage, unless your target has FR, which is unlikely, you should do full damage, as opposed to the ~10-45% reduction one might face normally.

Comentado por gamedisciple

Ya know, I realize these don't add much in the realm of DPS, but they do add something else that I feel is just as important... STYLE! Sure, you can just hit things, but wouldn't it be cooler if they EXPLODED once in a while? Even if it's only 5% of the time, combine this with a couple proccing weapons and a fiery enchant and you've got fireworks!

Comentado por 139821

What do these normally go for on the Auction House?

Comentado por Thottbot

does the fire damage chance work when a druid is shapeshifted?

Comentado por Thottbot

I love armor that gives you added effects rather then just straight up stat boost. It seems I must commit sucide and try to get this item. (By commiting sucide I mean I am playing in a pvp server so its going to be rough to get it seems.)

Comentado por Thottbot

he just posted it 4 times to show how important he means it =)

Comentado por Thottbot

i found these off the flamsnorting whelps they have a better chance to drop than the red whelps.

Comentado por Thottbot

These give a 5% chance to proc for an average of 20 (15 + 25 / 2) damage (before resists)... So effectively they add an average of one damage per attack (1 in 20 attacks procs for 20 damage), or less depending on FR. In my experience, they tend to proc about once per fight against things of my level.

This will be cat-spec specific (rogues can figure it out on their own, I'm sure), but for us, 1 DPS = 14 attack power, and as of the respec, in cat form +1 AGI = +1 AP and +1 STR = +2 AP. So these will increase your damage if your gloves give less than +7 STR or +5 STR and +4 AGI (the +dodge and +crit for that change is effectively negligible). In that regard, they are equivalent (as relates ONLY to DPS output) to level 27 gloves (q.v. Superior Gloves of the Tiger or Wrangler's Gloves of the Tiger), which isn't bad for an item that requires level 19 to equip...

Besides which, given the dearth of options feral druids have for attack procs, it's definitely a rather entertaining change of pace. ;)

In short, they are very good gear for about 8 levels, and entertaining as heck. I'm going to keep using them for a while.

Comentado por Thottbot

i was jus wondering if this affect works on bow also is it good for a hunter in WSG

Comentado por Thottbot

the scales are found in wetlands in the green belt I belive, they drop from skinning from all red whelps exept lost whelps I think but they might dropfrom them too im not sure. They are very good for a rogue with fast weapons.

Comentado por Thottbot

The chance on hit on theese gloves is just as good as the equip bonus from the stormshroud set.. Incredible :p

Comentado por Thottbot

I got the recipe for these on a PVP server, and yes i play horde. I can sell these for at least 20 gold, probably more, still trying to figure out what people WONT'T pay for them. The 10-19 WSG twinks LOVE these, including me. Its great to see two nice white damage hits and THREE yellow damage hits, two from firey enchant, one from this. I can one shot anything but pallys and warriors, and super twinks.

Curious to see if I can sell these for 50 gold a piece. Server is Akama, BTW, and if you do WSG you prolly already know who I am.

Comentado por Thottbot

Does this stack with Stormshroud Armor's set bonus(https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=25540/manto-negro-do-pântano)and
Shadow Oil?(https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=4543/casquete-de-pele-de-draco-branco)

Comentado por Thottbot

I just don't think these gloves can stack up to Scouting Gloves of the Monkey with 4+Agi and 4+ Stamina for a 19 twink rogue, that proc is just too weak and too low of a chance, while that 4 Agi and 40 extra health will go farther IMO

Comentado por Thottbot

If you can amke these gloves pst me im on Kalecgos and my character's name is Lissic thanks.

Comentado por Thottbot

Im trying to make a shammy twink. Should I get these or Scouting Gloves of the Bear (+4 strength, +4 stamina)?

Comentado por Thottbot

Horde players, I can make these on Anub-Arak.
ps. I farmed enough scales for three gloves in less than 1 hour.

1. They do not proc off ranged weapons.
2. The proc critical
3. They sometimes proc 2x back to back, I have seen this happen 3 times now, its possible that they are actually proc off another weapon proc.
4. My druid friend says they proc in bear and cat form.
5.They do NOT suffer from the OH proc reduction.
6.Fast weapons, Slice and Dice and instant attacks all make this proc more often.

Comentado por Thottbot

use these and 2 fiery enchant's and u will proc pretty much everyone time :)

Comentado por Thottbot

I wanted to know if the proc on these things is worth it. i would think that stats like agility and stam would be much better than a 5% proc that only does 15-25 dmg

Comentado por Thottbot

Just ran Westlands last night with my pally (37) and a guild member with his hunter (25). Got about 12 red scales (hunter skinning) in about a 1/2 an hour. He made two pairs for the twink rogues we are both making now. Our guild leader is giving us +5 AGI enchantments on them. COOL!

Comentado por Thottbot

just wondering how the hell u get the pattern if you are horde on a PvP server?

any helps gr8 cheers

Comentado por Thottbot

guyz i have no F'n clue where to get red whelps could you guyz help me out? ...ty

Comentado por Thottbot

I can make these horde-side on Terenas, and have some scales. Send an in-game mail to 'Zallandra', we can work something out.

Comentado por Thottbot

I just found a bunch of scales on AH for like 15s each on Lightbringer...are gloves and good for enhancement shammy twink?

Comentado por Thottbot

For a twink rogue fighting twinks these gloves are pretty bad--
most twinks have about 1000-1500 hp, if they're stamina warriors (like my friend) they may have about 2000.
So, 15-25 damage is really pretty useless. Its better to go for more hp, dodge, armor and crit chance. Therefore scouting gloves of the monkey are probably the best (4 stam, 4 agility)

Comentado por Thottbot

Can make on Aegwynn =) awsome twink gloves for rogue... i have sold on AH for 250 and even 350g! but if someone is on aegwynn and wants i can make for like 25g or so i have 20 billion scales the name on Aegwynn is Zeik if im not online on that char try Tirant, Zartayer or Adrellissa

Comentado por Thottbot

Farm whelps in wetlands on 24 hunter. only manage to sell these for 5g or less on khaz'goroth

Comentado por Thottbot

I made a ton of money off these. At first I was farming for the dragons tiny red whelpling pet. I kept skinning these guys and got the scales, but didn't know what they were for. I looked them up on thottbot, found these, and got the recipe. While I was farming for the whelpling, I also made these. Each one sold for aboout 80g! I got rich, and it was right before 40. I already had some money saved up for my mount, but I neede a couple more. This totally tipped the scales, though.

Comentado por Thottbot

I have managed to aquire this pattern, and in an effort to make these gloves more readily available to my Horde brethren I will craft them for anyone who has the mats. Just send a PM to Gutrick.

Comentado por Thottbot

Im not sure either..+15 agil to these gloves or +10 haste raiding as shown in the second picture...?

Someone please comment or tell me in-game...

Krabsforlife
Dalaran
62 Hunter

Comentado por Thottbot

Hey all!
First in answer the Neutral AH located in BB, Gadgzetgan as far as i know are aution houses where horde and alliance both can sell and buy items. great place to obtain "ONLY"/ faction specific items/recipes. Second, The drop on these was so bad before but farming yessterday to make a pair for a twinked out guildmate the LOST whelps were dropping this more than the red, crimson or flamesnorting wehlps.
-Feldwin on Vashj the clothie who makes leather. Pst for your today!free with mats( if i have to farm i want 5 gold! if you farm with me and don't skin 2 gold)thnx.

Comentado por Thottbot

Trust me.. you arent gonna get these sold for 9 gold so its not worth the 5 hours farming of scales. I had a hard time selling mine for 90 silver.

Comentado por Thottbot

Theoretically, the comparison between these gloves and plain- out strength, or agility (for rogues) would be like this:

Rogue: best possible for 1.3 speed would be 2x Poniard https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=2208.
1 damage per hit means 0,77 damage per second per weapon means 1,54 dps added. For a rogue, counting only +1 AP from 1 AGI, that equals 21,54 Agility.
Pretty sick, try finding gloves that give that much AGI...

For a druid in Cat form, which has 1,0 attack speed, this means 1 dps added, equaling 14strength/AGI. Again, pretty sick.

But of course, for all classes but Cat form druids, only fast weapons mean something with this. For example a Shaman with a 2.2 speed 1h mace would get 1 damage per hit means 6,4 strength.

Comentado por Thottbot

OMFG PLEASE ENOUGH WITH THE BIG WORDS!

I'm a lv52 Gnome Warlock skinner and leatherworker. I havn't tryed to get the pattern yet but i'm getting it tomorrow. I also have a 19 twink rogue and thank God i was a noob and chose LW instead of tailoring. I am now making Deviate Scale Belt, Deviate Sclae Gloves (3 agi 3 stamina), and Deviate Scale Cloak(+2 Stam +2agi), AND in 3 days ill be makeing these fricken awsome gloves. So just PST me on Hakkar for some of these amazing items.

Gnome | Warlock | lv52 | Hakkar | Norberis
(twink) Gnome | Rogue | lv19 | Narvii

Comentado por Thottbot

I would say these gloves are probably the most underrated twink gear in the game.

2 high speed weapons (1.4-1.5 DPS) with Firey enchants + Red Whelp Gloves = lots of fire procs. Those who say that firey is a poor man's enchant have no room to speak when dead.

I also think that people overlook explosives and other consumables - big time.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Good for a rogue in 10-19 wsg, twinked out of course.

Comentado por Allakhazam

This and dual fiery works wonders in PvP.

Comentado por Allakhazam

These gloves definately own in Pve too, i am lvl 31 and first now they are starting to get kinda bad, but up to lvl 31 there is probably nothing better. =)

Comentado por Allakhazam

nvm I found someone

Edited, Dec 21st 2006 3:59am by Skelic

Comentado por Allakhazam

I am on Horde side of Greymane server

I will make them free if you provide me with all the mats

Price is negotiable if you provide some mats (the more scales the better)

Whisper Lorux if you're dying to get a pair Horde-side

Comentado por Allakhazam

Since they put the 5% I don't find it very useful. since it's 1/20 of the stated damage. ie 1 pt damage(averaged out). if you have 3 agi. you get 1 pt damage for rog. a +5 agi gives you 1pt damage+ crit bonus, dodge, and parry bonus. of .15% (+ armor) if you're a rog buy a normal lv 19 gloves of agi. unless you're a betting man, they're no longer as great as they seem.

Comentado por Allakhazam

I just bought these for 1g 50s, i thought that was to much for them but then i saw median price here on alla. Im going to try em out right now. ill post how good they are in a sec.

Comentado por Allakhazam

I dont think they're all that great, since they dont add any agility, or to any statts for that matter, im sorry but dont the leather wearing classes revolve mostly around Agility, stamina, and Intelect? Unless you get a +15 agility enchant to them they're not that good for a twink... IMO FYI. Trust me, iv got a 19 twiked rogue with 175 agility and i was wearing these for about two WSG battles and the effect only proced 4 times 3 in the first 1 in the second, sure it did reasonable damage but i didnt get as many critts and my attack power and armor were somewhat lower so i didn't do as awesome as I do normaly, so i sold those things for the vendor priced, and i think i ripped the vendor off :)

My normal gloves are as followed:

Usaually: Scouting gloves of the monkey 4Agi 4Stam with Agility +15 to them.

Not so often: Nimble leather gloves ( I only equip them when im on low HP because of there sprit

Comentado por viperownsyou

Made these for my rogue to check them out, they proc quite often, as others have said the faster your weapons the better due to the proc being % based as opposed to procs per minute.

Be aware gouge will have a chance at procing the effect and it will break instantly.

Comentado por koodoo

I tested how well the proc scaled with +Spell Damage, more specifically +Fire Spell Damage.

The proc is listed as 'Firebolt' in the combat log. I did a test on WoW Vanilla with +0 added Spell Fire Damage and compared that to numbers with +124 added Spell Fire damage.

The 'Firebolt' proc does scale, as expected. Estimated by a damage difference of 52.74, the estimated damage scaling off the proc is 0.425/+1 Fire Spell Damage.

Comentado por TrojanGeist

Good alternative for 19 twink (rogue or shaman mainly) and discret skin. Fit well with all "brown" gear (hat, boots, westfall tunic...)
I think it's ~3 gold of cost for create this or nothing if you farm red whelp scale yourself. Lvl 18-19 gloves cost more (10g+) on my server.

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