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Comentado por 613

Question: As a raiding shadowpriest, should i replace my Orb of the Soul-Eater with this?

Comentado por 17654

For shadow priests:
Assuming Misery,Shadowform,Darkness and full Shadoweaving debuffs/multipliers and +1000 shadow dmg, I get:
541.1 dps for Mind Flay with the the fetish
539.6 dps for the Orb of the Soul-Eater
You'll lose ~ 1.28 DPS for SW:P, 1.33 DPS for VT and ~6 DPS on your Mind Blast
due to the difference in +dmg on the orb (51-37=14)
You'll also use slightly more mana with haste, the int is meh.
Easy decision for shadow priests imo.

Comentado por 20383

What about warlocks? (Specifically Affliction, geared mainly in kara gear with some T4)

Now I already bought this offhand with my badges... and wondering if it was a bad choice. My Guildmaster thinks I should be stacking spellhaste, but I'm not too sure about it. I don't think I have good enough gear to support the replacement of haste...

I do however have (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28734) off Netherspite... Wondering if I should be going back to this, or switching both in for the Orb of the Soul-Eater (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=29272)

Spell hit isn't a huge deal to me right now (I'm sitting nicely at 152), crit needs some work (it's 12.33%) But I won't need crit until much later in raiding when I switch to destruction.

Should I just put all stats aside and go for the Orb of the Soul-Eater? Or stick with this Fetish offhand? Ty for any help!

Comentado por 17471

I'm a deep fire mage with spellstrike/spellfire and I was wondering if I should get this or stick with (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=29270).

Comentado por 75247

In 2.4 Spell haste will also reduce caster only GCD's. Only reducing the GCD to 1.0 second will be possible.

I imagine spell haste will be worth quite bit more for most classes in both pvp and pve as spells with 1.5 second cast times can be ultimately reduced to 1 second spamable casts, flash of light etc.

as for a shadow priest in pve that should just about make this and orb of the soul eater as far as over dps goes.

Comentado por Furism

Just for the record, the display of this item is bugged at least on Night Elves. It clips right through our legs.

Comentado por 126019

Can someone tell me for a fire mage if this or the Flametongue seal is worth getting? I know I'll be losing DPS by getting this, but the +17 intellect may make up for it with my spellfire set (increases spell damage by 7% of your total intellect). Not sure whether to save another 10 badges for this or not.

Comentado por 108704

for raid spec locks spell haste is always valuable and a well planned mix of damage and haste will always pawn

Comentado por chazkohler

Im my opinion, the coolest looking off-hand out there.

Comentado por Zmobie

With Season 4 out now, I want to say that this item is a bit worse in every category by the Brutal Gladiator's Endgame. While the endgame does take a 1,125 Arena Points, it may be well worth it when compared to the 35 badges you need to spend on this.

+13 Stamina
+8 Intellect
+3 Spell Damage
+ 27 Resilience Rating
-17 Haste Rating

In comparison you do lose the Haste rating, but the stats you get may be worth it. A good team can gather enough points within 2-3 weeks for the Endgame, while the Fetish takes more then a Full run of Kara, or on average 10 Heroic runs.

Another thing to keep in mind is that Badges may be spent on an amazing amount of items, while most people only buy 5-6 Arena Items with their points, so it may be on your part to calculate which one gives you the best item for your time/work spent.

Just a comparison i thought may help people out now.

On the other hand, if PvP is taken out of the question, this is without a doubt one of the best Offhand item a caster can have, especially for only 35 Badges.

Comentado por Allakhazam

17 Haste rating on a 2.5 sec Cast spell is 'slightly' better in the long haul than 24 (1%) crit rating in terms of DPS. Drops the cast time of a 2.5 Frostbolt to 2.47 Sec. Probably only really see the benefits in a boss fight, unless you can acquire a decent amount more haste rating, and should keep + Crit gear on for trash mobs.

Comentado por Thottbot

Has anyone got this found spell haste very important? Or should I wait for the + hit off-hand from netherspite?

Comentado por Thottbot

I got this on my warlock, the 17 spell haste gives me a whopping 0.03 seconds off my spells, so my 2.5 second shadowbolt is now 2.47 seconds. Whoopie~~

Comentado por Thottbot

Caster Information on Spell Haste:

How much spell haste do I need to make my spells more effective?
Easy, 1. As straight casting goes, (not counting dot damage), anything over a 2 second cast benifits from spell haste. Since GCD exists, spell haste really only benifits things 2 seconds in cast time or longer.

Example 1) Short fights will benifit little from this, while longer fights will benifit more.

Example 2)Short casts benifit very little from haste, while longer casts will benifit more.

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Spell haste from this item will reduce spells to the following:
{17 Spell haste}
2.5 to 2.47
3.0 to 2.97
3.5 to 3.46
5.0 to 4.95
8.0 to 7.91
10.0 to 9.89

Some charts below will show how much spell haste you need to effectivly reduce your spells.

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=2.5 Second Cast= (Basic Spells)
================
7 Haste = 2.49 Cast Time
70 Haste = 2.40 Cast Time
350 Haste = 2.00 Cast Time
700 Haste = 1.50 Cast Time
1050 Haste = 1.00 Cast Time
1750 Haste = Instant Cast

================
=3.0 Second Cast= (Basic Spells)
================
7 Haste = 2.99 Cast Time
28 Haste = 2.95 Cast Time
56 Haste = 2.90 Cast Time
560 Haste = 2.00 Cast Time
1120 Haste = 1.00 Cast Time
1680 Haste = Instant Cast

================
=3.5 Second Cast= (Basic Spells)
================
9 Haste = 3.48 Cast Time
45 Haste = 3.40 Cast Time
225 Haste = 3.00 Cast Time
450 Haste = 2.50 Cast Time
675 Haste = 2.00 Cast Time
900 Haste = 1.50 Cast Time
1125 Haste = 1.00 Cast Time
1575 Haste = Instant Cast

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=5.0 Second Cast= (Channeled and Basic Spells)
================
16 Haste = 4.95 Cast Time
32 Haste = 4.90 Cast Time
160 Haste = 4.50 Cast Time
320 Haste = 4.00 Cast Time
640 Haste = 3.00 Cast Time
960 Haste = 2.00 Cast Time
1280 Haste = 1.00 Cast Time
1600 Haste = Instant Cast

================
=8.0 Second Cast= (Evocation)
================
2 Haste = 7.99 Cast Time
20 Haste = 7.90 Cast Time
100 Haste = 7.50 Cast Time
200 Haste = 7.00 Cast Time
400 Haste = 6.00 Cast Time
1000 Haste = 3.00 Cast Time
1400 Haste = 1.00 Cast Time
1600 Haste = Instant Cast

=================
=Ten Second Cast= (Portals, Teleports, Base Pet Summons, Channeled Spells)
=================
1.6 Hst = 9.99 Cast Time
8 Haste = 9.95 Cast Time
16 Haste = 9.90 Cast Time
80 Haste = 9.50 Cast Time
160 Haste = 9.00 Cast Time
320 Haste = 8.00 Cast Time
800 Haste = 5.00 Cast Time
1440 Haste = 1.00 Cast Time
1600 Haste = Instant Cast

Comentado por Thottbot

What's better for an afflic lock this or Orb of the Soul-Eater?

Comentado por Thottbot

although spell haste and melee haste both offer excellent dps increases, spell haste is unlike hit, dmg and crit for casters in one very important way. spell haste affects only the time component and therefore does not increase damage per mana, unlike the other aforementioned stats. in my opinion, spell haste items, like those that can be bought with badges, are a mistake for those with mediocre gear who are already have mana problems during boss fights. although i agree with the hit>dmg>crit hierarchy i should add that some classes gain a great deal from pve crit. fire mages and shamans get improved mana cost from higher crit%, arcane fire mages crit for 245%, and moonkins gain spell haste. for these primarily non dot casters, a good balance of crit + dmg will yield more dps than dmg alone.

Comentado por Thottbot

I agree with everyone above, especially the person directly above me. The benefit of haste is minimal (If it shaves off .03 seconds, you cant even respond that fast). I believe that haste only benefits casters once it surpasses the 100 mark. Melee haste on the hand increases your white damage, a significant difference. Hold off on getting haste items until you have several available that can bring you over 100.

Comentado por Thottbot

for a moonkin is this better or worse than the talisman of nightbane? i think the haste is next to useless (ok it is marginally useful for spamming starfire but it doesn't increase my dps for wrath because i am still waiting for the GCD)

does the haste and +9 damage make up for the lack of 17 crit?

Comentado por Thottbot

I am a destruction warlock. I have hybrid backlash/nightfall spec (17 / 0 / 44) and have all heroic and kara epics. in PvE situations, I mostly find myself spamming SB (as my spec dictates). I have two questions.
a.) Should I get this or orb of the soul eater
b.)I have no other static haste, but do have quags eye and blade of wizardry. Will the haste here make any difference (noticable or not) to my long term PvE DPS

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