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Comentado por 19065

Does these warrior shoulders drop both in Steamvaults and Shadow labyrinth's ??

Comentado por vikbys

Can these shoulders drop from Warlord Kalitresh as well? Or just from Murmur?

Comentado por 21854

Do they drop off of Murmur on heroic?

Comentado por 3316

I haven't seen them drop in Steamvaults heroic so far as normal is out of the question but then again who knows, haven't done it that often.

Also, I have yet to find better shoulders than these (there are of course the Fanblade Pauldrons dropping in Heroic Auchenai Crypts but they can't be socketed)

I put a
2 x Enduring Talasite (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=24062) = +4 Defense Rating and +6 Stamina
Inscription of Warding * (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28882)= 13 Dodge

Thus a total of 37 Stamina, 17 (or 25 or 38*) Defense Rating and 3/16 Dodge rating = 370/388.5 HP (2nd if you're a cow and reading this), somewhere along the lines of ~1% chance to Miss, Parry, Dodge, and Block and ~0.84 chance to dodge together with the Aldor enchant. If you're a night elf, add +1% chance to dodge to that too.

Only downside is, I've ran the instance 25 times till these dropped, others might be more lucky.

* I went for Aldor rep., alternate is 13 Defense from Inscription of the Knight from The Scryers (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28908), thus adding to the overall bonus from the item.

Comentado por TarALFA

more than 20 runs, no drop ((

Comentado por Nimchip

is it me or the drop rate is horrible? i'm exalted and still no shoulders...

Comentado por 11253

Bold armor drops off: (with location included)

Chest plate - Harbringer Skyriss, (Arcatraz).
Gauntelts - Warlord Kalithresh, (Steamvault).
Legplates - Aeonus, (Black Morass).
Shoulders - Murmur (Shadow Labyrinth).
Head - Warp Splinter (Botanica).

Comentado por 49056

Picked this up on my first Shadow Labs run our group was
1 druid
1 mage
1 prot warrior (Me)
1 rogue (really grumpy prick...)
1 warlock
i also got some other tank warrior loot (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27887) (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27891)
(https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27901) and a pattern
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=25728) hope all the other warriors get some luck too :)

Comentado por Wraath

Dropped on my first Shadow Labs run, putting two Enduring Talasite's https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=24062 makes them the best pre-heroic and pre-Karazhan shoulders for tanking.

I've heard of people farming like crazy to get them, but if you just can't afford to farm them then the next best shoulder plate to go into Karazhan with is Warchief's Mantle https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=29316 which is gotten from the Caverns of Time Escape from Durnholde Keep quest, https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/quest=10285

A lot of the Bold set isn't really superior to other options out there, but these shoulderguards certainly are.

Comentado por 51642

Been in SL 23 times now with no drop, and just got Adamantite figurine on 20th run (lucky me). In response to Wraaths post, https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27847 is the next best shoulders to get for pre-Kara tanking and might actually be better for tanking, due to the buff to parry rating after the next patch. For the tanks that want to squeeze every last bit of stam out, then the bold shoulders will give you that, but add on the parry rating plus the socket bonus, should you choose to get it, and the aldor inscription (15 dodge, 10 def at exalted or 13 dodge at honored, those make for better mitigation. Although the Fanblade's do have 9 less str ( 18 AP and less than .5% block), i will take the Fanblade's over these especially since i'm getting Badges at the same time :)

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Comentado por 56707

just got these. socketing with x2 Enduring Talasite. then an inscription for +13 dodge.

these are replacing my warchief's mantle.

8 runs total before these dropped for me. first time i went, both robes and shoulders of Oblivion dropped for the only warlock in group. what a lucky guy.

Comentado por 60498

this drops is the bigest random drop in the game i have farmed to exalted now and still no drop. so if you are a tank go to Archent crypt and get the heroic one's ore get a guild and farm gruuls tr4 is more easy to get ;)

Comentado por Aggrot

Got these at my 18 run today. And i might be the happyest tauren at earth.. I had high warlord shoulders before so i was pretty glad :).

Comentado por 50546

3.6K into Revered. No shoulders, no shield, no trinket.

Comentado por 59253

Suggestion: farm for these until revered, at revered, start doing heroic Crypts for Fanblade Pauldrons, as you will also get badges of justice from there so you can get the epic shield.

Comentado por 49056

i've done Slabs about 3 times these have dropped all 3, i've got 3 with diff gems in them
and yet so many warriors on my server can't get these to drop? Is blizz hiding a secret? :) (BTW: each time i killed him it was our 3rd try, and my group consisted of Priest, Mage, Rogue, shaman, tank,

Comentado por 48676

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=24463 drop in Underbog and are not really that much worse...

Personally I got both the plate shoulders and the shield on my first Shadowlab run with my Warrior alt. Dropluck I guess :)

Comentado por 11638

i ran SL on my warrior for awhile lookin for these shoulders and they never dropped, i ended up running heroic sethekk halls and got https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=32073#M0z. it seems that people that go there for the shoulders seem to have terrible luck but the people that arnt planning on getting the shoulders get it easily. blizz is wierd like that with drop rates

Comentado por 73242

I don't know if shadowlabs is some cruel joke by blizz on warriors, but tanking drops in sl seem to be retardedly difficult. So far I've seen adamantite figurine drop 3 times, the shield once(after I'd already ground out exalted rep with sha'tar and bought their shield), and I've never gotten the shoulders. I just finished probably my 19th run, 17th that downed murmur. I know I'm not alone in this bad luck either. Every warrior I ask about the shoulders says "oh I was exalted before I got em." The ones who say they got it early on, usually say "and I've run SL a lot more and never seen em again."

Comentado por 84430

Took me about 20 runs for it to finally drop, Blackheart the Inciter also dropped https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27891 that same run. Hit exalted with Lower City as well! Lucky number 20.

Comentado por Klima

I have a little question, what would you guys chose? These shoulders or https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28207? (Im going for tanking gear)

Comentado por Kalken

It seems many Tanks I've met go through the Bold shoulders phase.
Some of the replacements I've found without going to far into end game:
-Spaulders of Dementia Heroic Sethekk Halls, depending on what stats you like these might be an upgrade but you lose the two sockets.
-Fanblade Pauldrons Heroic Crypts, basically equal to these shoulders exchanging strength and a bit of stam for Def and Parry rating.
-Mantle of Abrahamis Karazhan Netherspite boss, basically all around better excluding the slight loss of strength.
-Warbringer Shoulderguards Token from High King Maulgar you're trading strength for agility but also gaining armor, stamina, and dodge rating if you have a guild who can defeat him.

Comentado por Zebeyo

Considering the bold shoulders are a normal instance drop they are far more attractive to new tanks. Slapping in 2 SSoE for +24 stam (screw the dodge rating bonus - it's small anyway) these will take me to Kara as main tank. - expect to replace them with T4 shoulders when i getthe chance :D

Got mine on first run =)

Comentado por 33153

If you are lucky enough to find Warlord's Iron-Epaulets of the champion https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=25028

You'll have
22 str
33stam
22 def

With the sockets in bold they are an obvious upgrade but these are holding me steady until i get something new.

Comentado por 128281

Going into Karazhan, i have hit the soft cap and am currently using Gladiators Plate shoulders. Would these be a replacement over those or vice-versa? I needa farm the second boss for the trinket anyways and was wondering if i should just finish instance and try and grab these as well.

So these, or glads?

Comentado por VerasGunn

These shoulders have an obscenely low drop rate. I've done Slab a good dozen times, not once have I seen them drop. I've seen just about every other Dungeon set for all of the other classes drop from murmur, even the Sonic Spear once or twice, but NEVER the Shoulderguards of the Bold.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Took me some swetty pugs and 23 runs. GL for every1 who desires these.

Comentado por Allakhazam

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Comentado por Allakhazam

20+ runs and never dropped.
FFS >_<

Comentado por Allakhazam

done about 3-5 full runs and this dropped for me, got the sonic spear last run, so my last 2 runs i have gotten the kara key fragment, sonic spear and the shoulders, just got the gloves in steam vaults tonight also

Comentado por Allakhazam

I don't know why but? It's pretty funny how they just seem to never drop lol... I mean i'm like exalted with the lower city crap..and never seen them drop. I have better shoulders now but I like to go back there to help people and still try to get shoulderguards of the bold for memories lol.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Got em on my first ever run, at lvl 69, put two nice rare Gems in em, and I can't wait to use em!

Comentado por Allakhazam

screenshot plz ?

Comentado por Allakhazam

on my 24th run..i finally got em. its kinda sad how terrible the drop is. pretty happy now though :) i got exaulted with lower city trying to get these too. so i got a cool tabard a nice afk weapon lol.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Done at least 50 runs, exalted since long ago, and fed beyond any imagination.
Really disappointed with not having seen these even once.
I suppose that somewhere deep down I still hope to see them..

Comentado por Allakhazam

Dropped for me today, Jan 26, off Murmur in Shadow Labyrinth. Ragnarose has family?

Comentado por Allakhazam

12 runs through shadow lab, still haven't gotten them

Comentado por Allakhazam

I'll post one tomorrow.

Comentado por Thottbot

If you're a paladin tank, go for the righteous armour set, great paladin tank stats, +def, spell damage, int and stam, #$%^load of armour too.

Comentado por Thottbot

If you put 12 stamina Star of Elune into the blue socket, and 4 def rating 6 Stam into the yellow socket, get the 13 def or dodge rating inscription from aldor/scryer, you have yourself a very nice set of tank shoulders.

Comentado por Thottbot

Oh yeah, this is like valor shoulders all over again...

I've never gotten to Murmur, but I can guarantee if I get their with a paladin and he is ret or prot spec, there is a 25% chance he will ask, or as a matter of fact, just roll on these.

Out of the 7 times (out of about 200 trips to UBRS, even after I got better shoulders than valor) I watched the paladins take the valor shoulders from warriors every time, cause they were 'ret spec' and needed 'the stats' (EVEN THOUGH LIGHTFORGE GAVE THEM BETTER STATS ALL AROUND).

Same thing is gonna happen here... After a few good number of warriors have these, the paladins are gonna get bored farming their set like they should, and start taking them from warriors 'for soloing lolololol'.

Comentado por Thottbot

Im at 20+ shadow labs runs and still have not seen these drop.

Comentado por Thottbot

you only need one tank for shadowlabs, why would you even be in the same group? it's like arguing over quest rewards.

Comentado por Thottbot

yup in a group we down murmurr my first time through shadow labs they drop and i was like holy crap shoulders and its a warrior set sweet. and of course a ret pally rolled need and rolled a 93 ill probably never see these drop again and will never group with a pally anyhow ever again unless they are a healer. and yes i have a pally and would never even dream of rolling on those over a warrior. becasue its our set not a pally set

Comentado por Thottbot

29th run so far still havent seen them gogo blizz

Comentado por Thottbot

go to heroic auchenai crypts and get fanblades off shirrak, u get badges, hes very easy and u get lower city rep!(lol)

Comentado por Thottbot

Blizz should really do something about the drop rate of these shoulders, I've done SL over 50 times (yes I have) and still they haven't dropped! I've seen ALL other items dropping at Murmur except the shoulders. It's like they hate warriors, isn't our class unfairly underpowered already? Should we have the crappiest drop rates as well? *SIGH* I know why they do this, because they have messed up the class and it's hard to find a tank now, so they give the worst drop rates to make us go to the same instance over and over again so all the other classes can get their items. (And don't even get me started on palas needing them... Luckily for me I never make groups with palas)

Comentado por Thottbot

I will never run SL w/ a pally. Just on the off-chance they do drop so that i can have them. A paladin should NEVER roll over a warrior on these. We have to put to damn much effort into getting them. Don't &*!@ it up for us.

Comentado por Thottbot

I did quite a few runs to get the Jade-skull chest piece out of Mech and, while it was frustrating, I knew that each run brought me closer to exalted with Sha'tar which meant I could pick up the epic shield as a rep reward. The Shadow Lab drops are problematic for me because there is absolutely nothing from Lower City for warrior tanks. If I could suggest an easy fix for this to Blizz it would be to give us some comparable shoulders at exalted with Lower City ... or anything.

I have the same problem with the Devilshark cape from Steamvaults. It didn't drop by the time I reached revered and the necklace is the only rep item worth buying. Ultimately I can't see running either instance ad infinitum to get a single piece.

Comentado por Thottbot

HA. This instance is GAY. REALLY GAY. 28 runs of Shadow labs, 0 drops from Murmur, finally got a different shield from Botanica, 0 drops from hellmaw for the shield also. I'm exalted and theres not even a reward at being exalted for a tank, not cool.

-Mindvirus, 70 warrior, Shandris.

Comentado por Thottbot

To Birdie93 three posts above me, i think, i would not complain about constantly running Slabs for the shoulders, the only thing to complain about is taht its a long instance. Forget the fact that lower city does not give anything to warrior tanks for rep rewards, if u get revered with lower city u can get the key to auchindoun instances, which (if im right) has tank gear in the heroic modes, like the Dementia shoulders, so yea this place is irritating but it is also beneficial in the sense that u have a chance to get revered and get epic gear from heroics by doing this place over and over

Comentado por Thottbot

Ok now I'm not sure if there are any shoulders that drop in heroics that are better, im assuming not, so i basicaly have no choice but to get this. They are great shoulders, but they have such a low drop rate. I've ran Slabs about 4 times, and although groups arent the problem, they never drop. This place is long, and i always need rep, but i would like to get these shoulders before the new xpac comes out. Plz blizzard make the drop rate higher!

Comentado por Thottbot

Just finished up my 18th run, and sadly I have not seen them yet. Nor have I ever seen them on my hunter or priest.

Sadly I don't have access to any other shoulders as good as these so I shall just keep on truckin until they drop.

Comentado por Thottbot

78 runs and nothing.

Warrior is officially retired.

Comentado por Thottbot

I have all the pre kara blues i can get of course need some slight upgrades like i need another good tanking trinket. Currently on my 21st sl run for shoulders.

have 2 questions (hopefully someone is kind enough to answer)

do they even drop on normal mode?
and has anyone seen these drop lately?

Comentado por Thottbot

Finally got on my 32nd run (yes im sad i actually counted) To answer one of my own questions I posted before it does drop on Normal thats where I got it from anyway.

Go for these last if your gearing up for kara trust me at least by then you will be geared enough to go to kara and if your geared for kara you have more options for shoulders because you can do heroics.

Shoulderguards of the Bold // 6% more drop rate on heroic according to my addon (atlas loot enhanced)

Fanblade pauldrons // first boss heroic crypts

Epic shoulders(not actual name:) // Heroic Sethekk Halls last boss

I hope anyone after these shoulders gets more luck than I did.

Comentado por Thottbot

Y waste all your time doing AV,im a fury warrior and ran SL 5 times, 1st 3 times had sucky tanks so i got tired and tanke it myself as fury,imma tank SL till these drop,the felsteel plans drop or until i hit revered and get those aldor rep drops.And whats with tanks these days,they cant hold aggrofor $%^&,i hold aggro betetr than most of em.

Comentado por Thottbot

Nice gear i agree. If ya aint a warrior tank forget about it, its no use to u. Ive read that some people have spent over 50 runs to get this gear. GG Bliz, way to incourage tanking.

Exalted with Lower city! woot healing trinket, lets see us Prot warriors heal slabs aye.

Comentado por Thottbot

for all those tanks out there who hate running 30-50 SL runs in found some shoulder pads you can get...run Sethekk Halls (heroic) and getthe pads the last boss drops....so F*** SL THEN F***ING BOLD PADS NEVER DROP....:)

For the Horde

Comentado por Thottbot

After 34 slabs runs with no shield drop from Ambassador Hellmaw and no shoulders from Murmur I went the welfare epic way with Gladiator's Plate Shoulders and the badge epic Azure-Shield of Coldarra. The stats were better than the Bot shield and my old Warchief's Mantle even if I do get laughed at.

If you're already well past the 490 def cap (as I was) the PvP shoulders are actually a very good tanking option with two Solid Star of Elune socketed as they offer +283 armor and +20 stamina compared to the Bold version. The + to crit and the resilience I don't care much for, but for around 11k honor and 20 AB marks they can't be beat as they drop from the vendor every time.

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