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Comentado por 14640

The target can still move and melee, just can't cast. It's a silence that breaks on damage.

Comentado por Carighan

Just tested this now.
It does indeed still have it's +45 Stamina. Very nice ^_^

On the usage, on a 5 minutes cooldown, you can Polymorph the enemy.
It is instant, lasts up to 15 seconds, but breaks on any damage.

Furthermore, the enemy is not incapacitated as with normal polymorph, it is silenced + loses 66% of attack-damage.

So while situational at best, it's not useless at all. And with +45 Stamina, cool! Deal! :P

Comentado por 17377

where does the recipe drop?

Comentado por 5661

This item is Gnomish Engineer only - whereas the Goblin Engineer only trinket is a Rocket Launcher.

Just like this one, it adds 45 Stamina - but the difference is noticable.

The Rocket Launcher only does 900-1500 damage, roughly, and takes 5 seconds to cast.

This item, while not dealing damage, only takes 1.5 secs to cast and is more likely to turn the tide in a fight (Because its a trick up your sleeve, instead of just more damage. Also shorter cast makes it more useful)

Comentado por Kupotek

This trinket is so fun. Adorable chicken peckin' at your group... definitely the life of the party :)

Comentado por Soni

I was glad to have this item in my inventory until I tried to use it.
Im a druid and if im in shapeshift form(for example stealthed cat), it won't work correctly, I always got "you are in shapeshift form" warning, and sometimes it doesn't work when I move. In the opposite, the +45 stamina is really hot, so I equipped it, and keep testing this trinket^^
Another thing I noticed that it didn't work on an elemental, I got "Immune" message when used on one.
If you have more information (usable on other race), and the differences with "polymorph", please share it.

Comentado por 14382

Backfires too often. If you're stamina fan (I know I am) get this trinket instead: https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27770

Not as easy to get as Poultryizer, but reliable and more useful.

Comentado por 23610

Does not work in Arena as of 2.0.7

Comentado por 23776

Confirmed, you're not allowed to use it in arenas as of feb 14, 2007. Not only that, you cant use it in forms if you;re a druid, it will active the cooldown but nothing happens. another nerf for engineers...

Comentado por 14292

This item WILL demount people (when it dosnet backfire).

Camping out on the ledges in Tempest Keep waiting for horde to fly within range is LOL.

Comentado por 33818

When you use it outside the casting range,
it still eats the cooldown while saying "Out of range".
Don't know if its working as intended or a bug.
So make sure you are close enough to your target when you cast it.
(*EDIT:They fixed it some patch ago.)

By the way this is a great trinket against Hunter/any caster class. People can not cast/range attack while being polyed.
(Nova>Trinket Poly you get a free hit for about 3-4 second)

Funny thing is, when you cast it on a player who carries a flag,
the flag will become insanely HUGE! (For example WSG/EotS)
And also if you cast it on a fury warrior, when they enrage you'll see a GIGANTIC RED CHICKEN biting you lol.

The poly does not last the full 15 seconds while use in pvp, normally it breaks after 3-4 seconds.
(Maximum 6 seconds as I've seen so far)

As a mage I've noticed that the polymorph spell breaks the chicken poly,
but if you do it the other way round you can actualy polly two players/mobs at the same time.
Polymorph>Chicken O
Chicken>Polymorph X (chicken breaks after the polymorph)

Comentado por 43826

With all these nerfs to engineering, i honestly wonder why in the world am i still an engineer.

With 375 mining, i'm better off picking up jewelcrafting or blacksmithing.

Comentado por Shagshahoon

This does not seem to have been added as a Trinket and does not come up with a WoWhead Trinket search.

Comentado por 29281

The key to using the trinket is to make sure you are within melee range and as soon as you turn your target into a chicken, you must immediately stop attacking or change targets. What I find that makes this hard to use as a melee player is that if I am autoattacking a target that I want to poly, my next hit will often break the poly effect.

What I often do is poly and immediately 'run though' the target so that I get the "target must be in front of you" error (for single targets) or I will tab target as soon as I use it in situations with two or more targets in range. While it supposedly doesn't backfire as often, I still don't suggest using it unless you have nothing to lose. It's really more a novelty item more than anything.

Comentado por 55393

i wanted a uber deluxe, instant face melting death ray for gnomish enigneering, but this aint so bad......but its not a melt hole in enemy thing.

Comentado por 12845

Tried it 2007/06/08, was in catform, used it on a 62 beast, worked.

Comentado por yakulto

Noticed something new after 2.1.0 patch:

A random occurence would be that the chicken will turn into a big chicken and have increased damage.

I think it was +100% damage.

Will post pictures once i see the buff/debuff again.

Comentado por Otiman

This isn't usable by druids in forms due to them being immune to the backfire component of the trinket. If they could use it without fear of backfire, it wouldn't be gnomish engineering then, would it?

Comentado por 54798

Just going to go over a few things that have been stated and which I have seen since I've used mine.

1. The effect does not last anywhere close to 15 sec. Everytime I have used it, it has lasted 4-5 sec.
2. Sometimes when using this in PVE situations the targeted enemy enrages and actually does more damage in "chicken form". I used it on a Cabal Cultist in Shadow Labs and had normal hits on me averaging around 1500-1600 (I'm a shaman).
3. Cannot be used in the Arena as of now. Very disappointing considering the mats involved and that the Goblin Rocket Launcher *CAN* be used in the Arena.

Hopefully Blizzard will fix this in the upcoming patch. Very disappointing to have to use up your Khorium/Primal Fires for something that doesn't work like it should. Great for the +45 Stam buff and great for a laugh in the BGs, but until the trinket is fixed it really isn't worth the time.

Comentado por 68195

Worst engie item ever. I know never use this, and its buried in the bank with about 56 other engie trinkets blizzard broke. This thing is so bad, and as a rogue it is NOTHING more than a shorter version of gouge were the target can STILL MOVE on a long cooldown. Lets compare to goblin rocket launcher...

1. Rocket launcher reported to have 45 yd range.
Poultry seems to be about 20yds MAYBE, and has a bug were it will not do anything if the target goes out of range while casting it, and you still get the cooldown.

2. Rocket launcher 2 min cooldown.
Poultry 5 min, wtf

3. Rocket launcher can be used in arena.
Useless Poultry cannot, not even for laughs.

4. Rocket launcer does dmg, and has a really nice stun
Poultry does no dmg of course, and last 2-4 secs in PvP.

5. Rocket launcer is a great way to catch fleeing enemies.
Polutry use to have 1 use...to dismount people in PvP. Now it doesnt work and the person literally rides mount as a chicken.

6. Rocket launcer has no failure.
Polultry fails left and right, and will sometimes make enemie do 100% more dmg. Really nice when this fails on a MS warrior or 3 min mage.

P.S. - Poultry breaks on any dmg, and only stops casting. People can still melee, but at reduced damage. So its not even a small gouge on warriors, rogues, etc.

I could go on, but you get the point. This thing is awful, and i would advice every gnomish engie to SAVE YOUR MONEY...until blizzard realize's this thing needs a serious revamp. Maybe work like the tooltip says, who knows. But as for right now, picture scatter shot were the target can move around and laugh at you...and any melee can you still hit you while /cheer at you. Awful awful awful....

Comentado por 24111

Movement imparing effects don't do damage. Try to keep that in mind when fighting Retriladins and Enhammys especially when they atempt to heal. Never used it but i sipouse you can safeley bandage while they can't do anything.

Comentado por 40616

i m also disappointed about this trinket , most cos it cant be used in arena... and rocket launcher CAN, anyone know how can i change from gnomish to goblin engineering ? i wanna get launcher :P

Comentado por axellemaelstrom

the stam buff stacks

http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Maelstrom&n=axelle

Comentado por 60549

Can it be used in the arena? would be glad to not have to test, you know that "whoops" isn't very funny to hear in a match ^-^

Comentado por 54527

Just to save others the bother of adding up the mats for this item, the totals are:
120 Adamantite Ore
12 Khorium Ore
2 Primal Fire (20 Motes of Fire)
plus the 10 Arcane Dust and 2 Large Prismatic Shards

Comentado por jamina1

Surprised that no one has mentioned the obvious "Red Dwarf" reference here.

Comentado por 85139

We might now know until season 3 starts, but is the Gnomish Poultryizer usable in arena post 2.3? Pre 2.3, the rocket launcher was usable in arena and the poultryizer was not, which I believe to be unfair. I think there is a good chance, Bliz will allow the poultryizer in arena post 2.3, and i was curious if anyone had any news on it.

Other than that, would the poultryizer work on a rogue, once the rogue is within his Cloak of Shadows? Would the 90% spell resist of the cloak of shadows also resist poultryizer? This would be great to slow down a rogue until that pesky cloak of shadows fades.

Comentado por 93626

As a mage tank, I used it in high king for stam. However...

I clicked it by a mistake, me, some others and our MT turned into a chicken (a wipe definitely).

Anyone tried a group backfire like me ?

Comentado por 63403

This trinket is NOT limited to Beasts, Humanoids, and Critters. I have polymorphed Undead (ghosts in Kara) and mechanicals with it. A very excellent tool for pulling casters, as a tank.

Comentado por SpareiChan

I can confirm that this trinket is NOT limited to humanoids, beasts, and critters... i have used these on the elementals during shade and non elite demons in Mech.

Comentado por 24111

No wonders it doesn't work 15s since no CC works in PvP for max 10s. Why did you disrate asole's post, he's damn right. Beside the Mage actually all classes lack CC very.

Since the patch that made all CC last maximum 10 seconds it's worth ev'ry damn cost to keep this Healer or Caster CCed just for a bit more, it also lowers Melee DPS a lot.

Most of all: Do not consider this as a Stun. It's a Polymorph, if ya don't know how this works ask a Mage. It's damn priceless, don't say it's crap, just becouse you don't know how to use it.

Comentado por Zeshar

The main thing I find this useful for is interrupting a heal in PVP or even some PVE fights.

Comentado por asole

This item will again not work on mounted players.

From 2.4 PTR

Comentado por Toldry

Also known as the Chickenator™

Comentado por Morthred

The "transmogrification polarity" mentioned in the item description refers to the "Transmogrifier", which is a morphing machine created by Calvin from a cardbox, in the Calvin & Hobbes comic series by Bill Waterson.

Check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmogrifiers for more info.

Comentado por badkarm4

Unsure of when it was changed, but as a druid with 2.3+, I can use it in all forms and I'm immune to polymorphs so it never backfires.

For PvE, it's great for tanking because of the reduced damage on a secondary melee, or total silence on a caster which will last the total duration, i.e. 15sec and ofcourse 45stm which gets buffed from both talents and bearform.

For PvP, being able to interrupt any healing and ultimately a locks fear is awesome.

Comentado por 145457

I've used this thing 100s of times and it's only ever backfired a handful if times...what makes it even funnier for tanking is, not only does it have 45 Stamina, but when you see a runner, or a broken Trap/Sheep or whatever, if it's the right type of enemy you can just blast it into a chicken! Life saver to say the least.

It's also handy for pulling when you've got to time the pull perfectly, although I have found that this gun sometimes pull entire rooms.....not really sure why.

Comentado por Allakhazam

i can confirm that this does not dismount other flaged players, but it does turn them into a chicken while they are still on a mount, i find this hilarious to see a chicken riding a kodo. one time it glitched in which case it did still turn the mounted person into a chicken, but somehow the mount grew very big...for those of you that have been in alterac valley it became somewhere around as tall as 2x one of the flags at the graveyards, im not sure exactly what happened but it did. was funny to see a little tiny chicken riding a giant frostwolf :P

Comentado por Allakhazam

From what I saw from this Trinket, it can dismounts, except for Flying Mount. On a duel against a Warlock, it silenced him and reduced damage by 66% for about 3-4 sec. Against a ogre mob, it could last 15 sec, but he changed back to an ogre after some hits. Reversal only happen once, but I haven't use it so much. And there's the +45 stamina.

All in all, it's quite useful, except maybe for the reversal, but most engineering have a chance to fail anyway.

Edited, Jul 2nd 2008 7:48pm by Brauchitsch

Comentado por Allakhazam

Made one of these today, can confirm what below poster says, its another engy trinket that could have been great that blizzard nerfed into stupidity.

Comentado por Allakhazam

I just made this the other day, (several days of mining, 40g on the prismatics, & a mid-lvl enchanter friend for the dust). In my short time of experimenting with this I found the following results; You turn target into chicken (obviously) for 15 seconds, this prevents any spells from being cast for the duration..in addition melee damage is reduced by 60% or increased by 100% depending..All damage against target has a seemingly high chance to cancel the poly.
Another result is yourself being morphed, the few times it did happen my melee was reduced by 60%, so I do not know if the 100% damage could be possibly applied to you on a "backfire". As a side note, while in chicken form I could still wing clip & scatter shot, but being so small made it difficult to melee in general.
So all in all, a form a cc...but only viable in certain situations. It is usable in combat, but I found that while the icon will say it's in range, (i.e. the red dot won't be in the right corner), the actual range is a bit closer. What will happen is you'll use it, it'll say out of range & you'll have to wait 5 minutes to try again.
Off the top of my head, letting a same level poultryized spider in Terokkar, (lvl 64), have his way with me resulted in 50'ish damage about every other second, with crits in the 200's.

Comentado por Allakhazam

quit complaining people.... even if you don't like the poly effect, the trinket still has +45 stam.... 45 stam ON A TRINKET! freakin amazing IMO jsut for that.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Where do I learn this?

Trainer?
Drop?

kkthxbye

Comentado por Allakhazam

just fyi non engineers
just got this crafted
mats are kinda steep but im a druid tank wanting more stm
and guess wat u need engineering to equip the trinket not just use the poly effect
so.....crap =(

Comentado por Allakhazam

Whoever spent 600 gold on this was crazy. This doesn't cost 600 gold unless you somehow decided not to take mining with your engineering, in which case everything is going to be super expensive.

I think an accurate price for mildly lazy people assuming mining would be 100g, for a smart consumer, probably just 50g.

First of all, adamatite is plentiful everywhere in outland. So mine mine mine all of that. Otherwise, it takes 120 pieces of ore to make the 6 bars, and that'll set you back about 100 gold or so alone, but we assume that our engineers mine... we all have mining or should and so we should be mining our way up to 375.

Khorium, just 6 bars. That should be easy to come across. On to the hard stuff, 10 arcane dust, 10g, also ask any guildy who is an enchanter and you're likely to get it for free or cheap. You can also get them to DE your greens that you get from dungeons. Any good guildy will do this for free. Of course, you lose a little money on not being able to sell those greens, but more or less its, 10g or cheaper. 2 prismatics. This'll be the 40g, but if you're smart you would have enchanters DE all the blue BoPs that no one can use in dungeons and roll on those. I could see picking up 2 primatics relatively quickly in Outland instances.

Finally, you can find mote of fire from mining, so you're likely to have 2. I actually was stupid and didn't think, so I sold to vendor my motes of fire and hence had to buy primal fire for 10g each. But that's still just 20g.

So, a savvy consumer really doesn't have to pay for anything. 10g on the arcane dust since you lose it either from loss of items or buying it. Blue BOPs only sell for 5-10g max, so 20g on the prismatics max, most likely less than 12g on those. And maybe a primal fire, so another 10g. You should have found the other one mining, especially that much adamantite.

Comentado por Allakhazam

I'm a Leather Worker and on some stuff I make it says "Requires Leatherworking (350)", but that is only to get the set bonus of +20 strenth. Other than that anyone can still equip it and get the stat bonuses. This item says "Requires Engineering (340)". So can I equip this without Engineering and still get the +45 Stam, but just not be able to "Use" the item?

Edited, Mar 13th 2007 9:50am by OnicochED

Comentado por Allakhazam

Will this trinket dismount other flagged players? If anyone knows, please inform me. That could be a very very useful ability, as this is apparently usable in midair. Combine with a parachute cloak and you may be able to get an insta-gib. Just don't waste your time on a Mage, Paladin, or Priest...

Comentado por Allakhazam

I LOVE this trinket. I think all of you who are complaining about this really are expecting too much.

I'm level 70 now and I run dungeons a lot and occasionally BGs. This isn't particularly useful for me in BGs as a frost mage, maybe because I haven't learned to use it yet in that setting--also because against 1v1, polymorph is the best controller and more than 1v1, well, frost mage = dead, but in dungeons it is awesome.

I tend to use this thing about 5 times every dungeon. Anytime there's an extra hard pull (like you have 4 pulls all the way and then a 5 pull), it comes in handy. If there is an unexpected add, I usually whip this out. Also its nifty to use if a mob goes for the healer. My main healer is usually a pally, and he says that these things hit him for 100 damage when they're chickens and don't break his casting either.

Usually the reversal doesn't occur but once every 5-10 times and I haven't seen the large chicken yet. Damage breaks this, but again usually I do it beforehand as a polymorph or on an add or when its attack the healer, who won't hit back, but just deals with it. It has killed me once when I was turned into a chicken, but mostly I usually these episodes occur at convenient times.

Then there's +45 stam. +45 STAM. That is what we call awesome. Thanks engineering. The only question is should I make a second one. It would be less useful because there would be no more usable ability, but is +45 stam worth +26 crit and an activated (2 minute cooldown) ability for +100 SP for 15sec? Probably, but I can wait on this one until I manage to find my mats.

Comentado por Allakhazam

This rocks for Rogues. Extra CC in addition to Improved Sap. Only fifteen seconds, though, but that's usually enough to mostly annhilate whatever I've decided needs to die. Yet again, I'm proud to be an engineer, and am convinced that Blizzard loves us the best. (Even if the stuff isn't totally useful, at least it's hillarious!)

Comentado por Allakhazam

ROFL

Makes me want to revert to gnome... but I still like blowing stuff up.

Comentado por Allakhazam

If you do the chickken dance ( /chicken ) to it 100 times it wil start a quest :)

Comentado por Thottbot

sweet, im part mage =]

Comentado por Thottbot

only one question : where can you learn it ?
from a trainer ?
from a recipe ? is it a quest reward, a fix drop (from one specific mob), world boe drop (I hope it's not !), or what ?

ok, I am only 320 in engineering now (made 20 repair bot ...), but this thing is so awesome !

Comentado por Thottbot

At last the location !

The gnomish engineer in booty bay trains the turret, goggles, belt and the poultry trinket.

It indeed does have +45 stam and is not unique !

Happy hunting, i can only assume the goblin engineer in gadgetzan will teach the rocket trinket.

If you need one made send me a msg or in game mail.

These also require Gnomish engineering to equip and use, not just to make it. So for those of us who used to get both rocket/gnomish for different trinekts and gadgets it won't work with this. You will only be able to use this trinket or the goblin rocket. :(

+90 stamina is very useful none the less, as a warlock I've reached 12k hp unbuffed so far with 760 damage so these don't cut into damage too much and in my opinion the stamina is well worth the sacrifice of losing your default trinkets.
These are instant cast and turns your target into a small chicken (when it works) and makes them unable to cast spells while polyed and reduces their attack power by 66%. They can still attack you and it's not a fully polymorph. It just makes say... a caster completely useless for a few seconds while you finish someone else off first.

Any damage done including dots will break this effect. Be wary of using the trinket out of range as it will put the item on cooldown even if you were too far to cast it.

This is not limited only to humanoids but works on all types of players/npcs. (unless they're immune)

-Incantra
Medivh Alliance

Comentado por Thottbot

this is not instacast.

NOT INSTACAST.

it may seem like it, and there may be no castbar.. but it is not instacast.

so NO, you can NOT use this while lev/slow falling off a mount in order to pull another off their flying mount.

i died inside.

Comentado por Thottbot

This thing is like a 15 second silence and if your opponent gets damage it breaks. Thats it. Nothing more. Your opponent can move freely, can use melee attacks freely and if your unlucky he also gets 100% more damage. So you can only use this against casters.
It does not increase HP regen like sheep does.
At least the 45 stam is useful, you can equip two of these and get +90 stam. Nice!

Comentado por Thottbot

As of patch 2.0.7, this item cannot be used in arenas.

I'm going to repeat that, in bold caps, in case you didn't catch it the first time.

THIS ITEM CANNOT BE USED IN ARENAS.

The cooldown is still 5 minutes, so it must have been explicitly coded as an exceptional case. Either that or it's a bug.

I've just spent a lot of money levelling my engineering just for this thing and then making it, and I cannot begin to tell you how pissed off I am about this. Can the blacksmiths use their uberweapons? They sure can. How about the jewelcrafting trinkets? Same.

And what about <insert several pages of semi-coherent whining here>.

Gah.

Comentado por Thottbot

Everytime something remotely comes out enjoyable or as an advantage, it's nerfed down to nothing.

I really do feel sorry for all of you out there :(

Comentado por Thottbot

Damn, wish blizz would give us engi's a shot to swap from goblin to Gnomish or vice versa.... because this item alone. Makes me wish i went Gnome. /sigh.

Comentado por Thottbot

I made this just for the sake of making it, and I'm mixed on the results.

Yes, it does cost quite a bit to make. I mine so the mats didn't sting as much. Power cores are always expensive because primal fire will probably never go down in price, and adamantite tubes, sheesh that's a lot of bars for one item.

For those who want the 45 stamina on a trinket, it's probably worth it for that alone. That's a lot of life depending who you are.

The weapon itself? I have to give a thumbs down to. Against mobs, say one with ranged attack, they still fire! I had a chicken in Azshara shooting arrows at me.

The second time I used it I myself was turned into a tiny chicken, which wasn't great, but at least I had control to move wherever.

It reminds me of the discombobulator, where the enemy is transformed, but still has control. A bit disorienting, but more annoying than anything else.

And yes, because it's not unique, you can have 2. 90 extra stamina on trinkets isn't such a bad thing, if you don't like your current ones.

Blizz wasn't completely heartless when they made this. Without the 45 stamina, people would be a lot more upset.

Comentado por Thottbot

So I get some mixed things big chicken = double damage or is it like a mini polymorph I am curious. If big chicken makes the target to do double damage and Small chicken -66%. And the trinket backfired and one got turned into a big chicken could they then use their melee special attacks etc for double damage. Anyone know?

Comentado por Thottbot

the gnome engineer in booty bay is at loc 28,76 inside a hut.

Comentado por Thottbot

As with all Gnomish Engineering stuff, you can learn this from Tinkmaster Overspark in Ironforge (if you're Alliance that is)

Comentado por Thottbot

doesnt work in arena

Comentado por Thottbot

let's compare this to the goblin rocket launcher:
1. this can not be used in arena, but goblin launcher can.
2. this thing backfires most of the time, making the enemy deal double damage, goblin launcher doesnt backfire.
3. goblin launcher cd = 2 min after patch, poultrizer 5 minutes.
4. goblin rocket launcher is a lot more useful than this, looks cooler and doesnt break the effect when you hit your enemy, like the chickenizer!
Yes, thank you blizzard, again, nice balancing!

btw is there a way to change specialization without starting completely over?

Comentado por Thottbot

I've used this many times in PvP, and it does not stop the guy you have "chickened" from using his special attacks on you.

Unlike a mage sheep, where the player is rendered useless and wandering about aimlessly, this item just transforms the player but does nothing else... they still attack you full force.

IMHO it is useful only as a +45 stam buff, and for a good laugh.

Beyond that, it is as useless as all the other engineering items Blizz smoked up for BC... (for example: the epic Gnomish Battle Goggles (read the posts), the ornate khorium rifle which is comparable to the common world drop vanados bow (except you have to make adamantite shells for the ornate rifle, and all you need is CE rep for 37dps arrows) and the khorium scope. Both of these are poor sellers in the AH and the battle goggles are not socketed, and leather only. Should we even mention the usefulness of multicolored flares? lol The transporters are maybe the only good thing.

Most of my toons are engineers.... I sure hope Blizz reviews engineering soon before I delete this very expensive to level profession...

Comentado por Thottbot

Used it 10 times....i ended up the chicken 8 ....useless for anything other than stamina

Comentado por Thottbot

for !@#$ sakes, i just droped nearly 150g on all these stupid mats and now i cant even use it in arenas... /wrists

Comentado por Thottbot

I noticed that, as of version 2.1, the Poultryizer is instant-cast. I only got it 2 days ago, so I'm not sure if it was already the case before, but I can definately use it while moving and the effect is instant.

Also, it doesn't only silence the target, it also reduces its damage by 66% (see tooltip on the target when you use it). Not sure if it applies to all damage, but I tested it on a mob and I did receive far less damage than usual.

Nice as an additional short silence - to counter someone's heal. Ugly when it chickenizes you instead, though.

Comentado por Thottbot

For Druids:

This trinket IS usable in bear/cat and any other druid form, except for flight form. However, you are NOT immune to backfires. When it does backfire, the debuff seems to be associated with the form you were in while you used it. For example, I used it in bear form and it backfired. I was able to shift out and heal, or go to cat, with no problems. But when I returned to bear, it turned me back into a chicken.

The poultryizer IS usable against most types of enemies - it's not limited to humanoids or beasts like mage polymorph is. I use it on demons all the time =)

The chicken debuff lasts 15 secs most of the time, although I noticed in duels it only lasts about 3 seconds. It's so much fun, and for druids, it's great for CC without having to shift out for roots/cyclone. You can even "chicken" mobs who are chasing you from behind as you run away in travel form, since it's an instant cast. Have fun!

Comentado por Thottbot

Made my 2nd one today now I have over 10k health :)

In almost 2 weeks it has only turned me into a chicken twice. So that is not bad. It is very useful for instances when you want to pull a caster. Or silence one.

Today was the first time I used it in PVP. Oh what fun. Pally kept healing the hunter I was killing so BAM! He was a chicken and the hunter was dead. I never seen a pally run so fast.

This is worth the cost of mats just for the fun factor alone. Now I can chicken those pesky mages who keep sheeping me. A rogue with 10k health and polymorph. Now that is a riot.

This is one of the more fun trinkets I have seen.

Comentado por Thottbot

I combined it with the /chicken macro.

It turns a few heads, and is really neat. The stamina is great! Blizzard is so swell for beefing up engineering.

... Who am I kidding. The debuff is kinda weak. Tested it like 20 duels and countless bg's and the average time was 3-7 seconds. Never made it to the full 15 seconds and it backfired twice. Druids in a form were immune.

Yes, it may hurt casters. I've taken down many flag carriers by turning their heals into poultry. Still, an epic warrior in bg still crit me for 1k, even with the 66% reduction. So melee classes still make a MEAN chicken. You can make a joke and subtract the 450 health the trinket gave me from that damage. It wouldn't be too funny though.

I was dissapointed to see it didn't work in Arena. And jealous to hear the Goblin counterpart does work. Caster or melee, a 3 second stun is a 3 second stun not to mention the damage, range and intesely cool visual. Heck, it even has the stam buff and a shorter cooldown. Yes, it stuns the user but hell, I've been turned into a chicken more than once.

I feel like Blizz keeps pulling the rug from under me. If I could I would gladly just trade for Gobling Engineering. I guess this is punishment for getting the death ray a while back.

So if you're reading this trying to decide which to roll, go goblin. Yeah you might die using your stuff, but hey, at least you will get to use it. Pound for pound, you can get more out of an already difficult proffession with the goblin tree. Just ask anyone who's eaten a rocket to the face.

Edit: This not a engineer flame, by the way. Just take a look at those sexy tier 5ish goggles or those completely awesome flying machines we have avaialble. I feel the love. It's just not from the poultryizer.

Comentado por Thottbot

Oh crap, as of 2.4, and I quote: "Gnomish Poultryizer: This item will again not work on mounted players."

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make sure u realize how expensive making this is, because it is EXPENSIVE

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can this be used at level 50?
cuz that'd be kickass.

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seeing as it isnt Unique, I guess you can equip 2 at the same time...and i know its probably true, but do they share cooldowns then?...

Comentado por Thottbot

i think this is a great little trinket, and allthough a tad expensive, its worth it just for the 45 stam alone ( for the duder who got 47, thats because of your talents )

For the record, This is NOT a mage style polymorph, that has completly different effects. What you can take this trinket to be, is an AWESOME pulling trinket for tanks. I have used it on many occasions to pull a caster mob in an instance ( in many cases, once u shoot at them they will stay where they are and throw spells at you, and theres not much you can do about it, not good if they are in the path of a patrol, or you are at risk of body pulling a group who may be near by )

i must admit, i have used it many times and not once had a backfire, i dont know what all the fuss is about :D

in regards to its actual effect, it visually transforms its target into a chicken, and prevents them from casting spells, it also lowers their melee dps, but with the potential of boosting it instead, it shudnt be used on a proper melee dps mob for that reason! it does NOT regenerate their health, it does NOT prevent the character from doing anything except cast spells, or mount. it wont work on druids in a shifted form, which isnt so bad, cos u shudnt have used it on anything bar a moonkin anyway :p

in regards to using this in PvP/arena, i think forcing any kind of unfair advantage ( and a 3-15 sec silence IS an unfair advantage to any1 who could not ordinarily do it ) is wrong, and i have no gripe with not being able to use it there.

it is constantly compared to the gobo rokit launcha, and the poultryiser usually loses that comparison. ive no idea why tho, a gobo rokit does some ranged dps. wow.... so can my regular gun/bow/crossbow/grenade/spells. its nothing special! what ( other than a lock ) can cause a potential 15 sec silence on a caster?.

irespective of that, i can only hope that those of u thinking about making it, should look at it as a very usefull +45 stam trinket, with an added extra bonus :)

/rant off

Balthor
Lvl 70 Warrior
Arathor

Comentado por Thottbot

IM a Tank. and im using this and it is VERY good. the bst thing, is when i pull. and a magic mobs is standing in an area that is to hot to run into. but ok to pull. and the guy is just standing there. throwing shadowbolts at me. CHICKEN! and he comes right to me to get his ass wuped. so it is very good. and the stamina is awsome. want more trinkets with stamina. u only need that much avoidence and def. but u will always need more stam.

GO GET BOY! and u get som awsome googles with engi also.

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I will add to the comments on using this as a tank: awesome.

First, for an engineer tank it gives you a craftable +45 stamina trinket. This is hard to beat when you are gearing up. You can even equip two of them- 900 hp is very nice.

Next, if you aren't using this at every opportunity while running instances you are doing it wrong. You know those casters that you want to kill first, but they refuse to come to you and they can't be LOSed? Meet the chicken pull. These guys get silenced and obediently run to you to apply some weak ass melee. Don't even have to kill them first- just keep them agro'ed- if you don't get to them before the silence wears off just shield bash/concussive blow for interrupt as needed.

Healer pull agro on that last mob you can't seem to keep glued to you? Chicken him. He'll come running back to you pronto. AND his damage output is seriously gimped.

Get jumped by a caster/melee combo in a BG? Chicken the caster and kill a now unsupported melee. Druids are the only downside.

Mispull and get some adds? A quick chicken helps a lot. Not only will the chickened mob stick to you, but is either silenced or seriously damage gimped. Great in PVE too.

Listen, folks, don't you think Blizzard tested the poultryizer in Arena? They didn't just say, "Hey, we hate gnomish engineers, let's stick it to them." The poultryizer in Arena would be just sick. A 15 second silence on the healer? It's way better than the rocket launcher and completely rapes casters. If you can't see that, well, go make your bombs and be happy.

Poultryizer FTW.

Comentado por Thottbot

Pretty good better then mages polly, since there's no regeneration rate.

Rocket launcher is better my opinion

Comentado por Thottbot

Trouble pulling a casting mob to you in an instance as a tank, simply 'Poultryize' the caster and it cannot cast therefore runs towards you into your mellee range, easy!

And +45 Stamina, perfect for tanks needing more health.

Well worth it imo.

Comentado por DrainPipe

This thing is junk. It silences the enemy and reduces their damage but any damage done to them will remove the debuff. The rocket launcher from goblin mastery is FAR more useful and only has a 2m CD. Don't waste your materials on a poultryizer.

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