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Comentado por 3118

Arcanite is usually within a 10g window on all servers. Average asking price for a transmute is 5 gold, although 4g is becoming popular since thats how WoW's open market works.

It CAN be mined out of small throium veins, however that is a rare occurence. It is less rare from rich thorium veins (RTV).

Comentado por 91138

Arcanite bars are also needed by enchanters to create runed arcanite rods, and it can't be skipped as the arcanite rod is an ingredient in the next enchanting rod required only 10 profession levels later!

Comentado por 105958

Note for Llane Alchemists: Unless you are a miner, or know one you will have to buy your own materials (Thorium bar-2g in AH, Arcane Crystal- 5-10g in AH) This means that if you sell your arcanite bar in the AH for the general price (20g) the profit will only be 8-13g which is not bad. However, there is also good money in selling arcanite transmutes using the buyer's mats (which are especially good if you still get alch. skill from it). From experience I know that there are some people who will only tip 2g, but there are some rich and desperate souls who will pay 25g (provided you meet them at a destination that works best for the customer). I hope that whoever bothers to read this will find it useful. And when I learn more about it, i may post information similar to this about primal might transmutes in the primal might item comments.

Comentado por nosound

I had no idea, what are those arcane crystals needed for and i just stored them in my bank. Then, one day, I got my hands on rare engineering schematic from MC - https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=16055
Lucky I didn't waste all my crystals :) Now, I'm a happy PvP engineer :)

Comentado por Zellyn

No longer has a cooldown on the 2.4 PTR.

Comentado por Krynoraxian

An interesting note: Due to the increased drop rate of arcane crystals in all thorium veins. For a very short time(275-280) Arcanite Keys can be a good substitute for Imperial Plate bracers for getting some skill up.

Transmute Arcanite is:
Thorium Bar x1
Arcane Crystal x1

Arcanite Key x2 is:
Arcanite Bar x1
Dense Grinding Stone x1 (4 Dense Stone)

This compared to...

Imperial Plate bracers:
Thorium Bar x12

It should be noted Arcanite keys are of yellow difficulty when you train them at 275, but for those 5 blacksmithing levels its well worth the risk over the orange skill Imperial Plate bracers to save yourself some money/time.

Comentado por Thottbot

The alchemist vendor/supply guy in Gadgetzan sells the recipe.

Comentado por Thottbot

On korgall the general prices are.

Arcane crystals: 16-20g (mostly 18-19)
Arcanite bars: 20-25g (mostly 23-25)
Transmutes: 2-3g

Im a Blacksmith/miner and usually farm to get the big profit or im buying crystals below 17g in ah buy a transmute for 2-3g and sell for 23-25g, a quick 3-6g profit.

This is horde side atleast. If anyone have some price info on the alliance side and it would be cheap with 30g for a bar i gladly buy some and put out in the both sides ah.

Comentado por Thottbot

You need:
1 Arcane Crystal
1 Thorium Bar
for 1 Arcanite Bar

You need a Alchemist with the learned recipe "Transmute Arcanite" to do it for ya...
it has 48 hours CoolDown so most normal price for a transmute by others is around 5g

Comentado por Thottbot

Does anybody know if throwing u'r philosopher stone and making another affects the cooldown?

Comentado por Thottbot

I bought the recipe today after seeing how cheap the mats were, but how much Arcanite bars are going for at the AH. I spent about 3-4G for 3 of the crystals. About 2G for 3 Thorium Bars. And 4G+ at the vendor for the recipe. The Arcanite bars are on AH for 18-20G per bar. 36G for 3 bars. Its insane. But also the best money maker I've seen so far for my Alchemy prof. Still, I dont know if I would charge 36G. XD

Comentado por Thottbot

To all the Alchemist who dispare, there is a light at the end of the rainbow.

I have a low level ALT 35, makes arcanite bars.

Was selling for 32G to 40G a shot, arcane crystals were selling for 14g a shot.

The new expansion came out, Arcane went to 1.5G each! THorium 1G each. I couldn't sell the damn thing for 5G per Arcanite.

Then people in alchemy realized that becoming a high level master of transmutation, they can create Primal Mights and maybe get some free with the deal and sell those for 100G each and make a mint!

I then started to notice the price of Arcanite bars increasing! Why? People are no longer using their 23hr (not 24hr as people state) cooldown on the primal might and other powerful items, why make a low paying Arcanites! But people still need them.

So I have started to bring the market back up. I now sell bars for 13G each, and rising. The crystals are still selling for 1.5G each, but slowly rising. They have a good drop rate now. So I have loads. The thorium is a breeze to buy or mine. And my low level Alt is making me money.

of course, for big money, get a Master skill and leave the Arcanite business to me! :)

Play the game, do not let the Game Play you!

Comentado por Thottbot

I have been selling Arcanite Bars for about 2 months now in the AH for the horde...typical price 10g 75s. I hadn't seen Arcanite run for much more than 15g each...don't know if people were selling them at tbat price...kudos if you were. So the breakdown was typically:
Buy: Thorium 1g 50s
Buy: Arcane Crystal 4g
Sell: Arcanite Bar 10g 75s
Profit: 4g 50s on average.

This last week the Arcane Crystal market exploded and now Arcane Crystals are running at twice the price. Anyone know what happened? Has the drop rate on ACs gone back down?

I am trying to bring up the market on Arcanite Bars...trying to sell at 15g each to offset some of the cost but some people are still managing to sell for around 10-11g. So either they are selling for a miniscule profit or they have an alt that is farming mats for them.

I am really trying to avoid having to put together and alt that would farm the mats I need for the transmute. X-(

Comentado por Thottbot

hard to find in AH on my server but they are 7g since burning crusade

Comentado por Thottbot

On my server they are now close to 20 g, their price has rised few times.

Comentado por Thottbot

On my server the price of the crystals have droped to 4g and im on the pally mount quest so i litterally paid 24g for 6 crytals and 6g for the bars... cheap but the problem still is... im offering 5g and mats to anyone to transmute for me and i havnt found a single person in 2 days... is it just me or is something seriusly messed up... duuh

Comentado por Thottbot

After patch 2.4 there will be no cooldown to transmute these. I expect the price to drop from 20G to 5G instantly.

Comentado por Thottbot

If indeed the cooldown time drops to nothing on these, expect to see a lot more heartseekers, arcanite champions, etc out there for sale. This is usually the holdup because of cooldown times, hence the high cost per bar. So while the bars themselves will sell for so much less, It opens the market for the items that use these as mats to be sold much wider. There is a silver lining here. Assuming that this is all true of course.

Comentado por Thottbot

I predict that the other effect of eliminating the cooldown will be a large increase in the price of arcane crystals - since the cooldown had been limiting demand up 'till now. With no cooldown, people will be encouraged to make the things mentioned in the last post, as well as make arcanite bars to level alchemy.

I've gone out and bought all the crystals I can for less than 7 gold each. Let's see if I'm right.

Comentado por Thottbot

It doesn't says that it has cooldown, did they remove it in last patch?

Comentado por Thottbot

yes..they sell now 70% cheaper

Comentado por Thottbot

ok, you can still make a profit from these, just not as much. And yes, it does suck that you may have banked on it to carry you through, but Pally's were/are the ones buying them more than anybody for the charger questline. I know I did. Bear in mind my post above though. This opens much more market potential for volume sales IF, and it is a big if, the blacksmiths on your server start making some pre-bc blues or epic gear for their mid level alts or guildies. Hell, even for sale on the AH. I use my shammy almost exclusively to transmute these for my blacksmith Pally. I've sold quite a few Heartseekers and Sageblades already since last week when the patch came out. Lots of gold to be made still if you can partner up with somebody you trust. A lot depends on the demand on your server though to be fair. If the demand isn't there, then yeah, you might be screwed.

Comentado por Thottbot

yep prices on arcane gems have shot up on my server to 16 to 20 gold

Comentado por Thottbot

And just as a side thought to the person upset about arcanite bar prices, try primal might xmutes. those have shot up on average 25G per on Stormreaver to 105G at the lowest. Pre patch they averaged about 80G. You can only do one a day, not taking into account procs, but what a profit if the mats are easily attainable for you.

Comentado por Thottbot

since no transmute cd = this + transmute master = money

Comentado por Allakhazam

I create Arcanite bars, on Aggramar on the European servers, for a flat fee of 5g. /w Eric, if I'm on, or send me a mail and I'm sure to reply soon.

Comentado por Allakhazam

5 gold for something that one has worked up the skill to conduct. Not to mention the 48 hour cooldown. I am insulted and on stike. Alchemist deserve a cost of living increase and a dental plan.

PS Bite me Miners

Comentado por Allakhazam

Only alchemists can make this, one every 24 hours.

The recipie is bought from an NPC in Gadgetzan.

Comentado por Allakhazam

lucky people... your talking about it being outrageous cuz the bars sell for 35-75g but the crystals alone sell for about... 150g lowest in Detheroc (Horde) because all the good thorium veins are covered by farmers

Comentado por Allakhazam

so only achemists can make?

Comentado por Allakhazam

Don't try and get these at the AH as they cost a lot! Instead buy some Arcane Crystals (msot of the time they are cheap) and some thorium bars and get an alchemist to turn them into ARcanite bars. Make sure you have a number of alchemists because each time the transform the materials there's a 24hour cooldown.

Comentado por Allakhazam

It's risky trying to make money buying crystals then making arcanite for profit. The only way i'd do it is if I saw someone selling 2 crystals for like 30g or something. Most people that need arcanite bars buy the crystals and thorium themselves, then pay an alchemist 3 or 4 gold to transmute for them. Much cheaper than buying the bar by itself usually.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Well after playing on windrunner for nearly a year and a half...I've never seen one sell for that price.

Comentado por Allakhazam

20g onwards on khadgar, alliance side! Wooo hooo! But still expensive to me. .

Comentado por Allakhazam

on elune server these go for 35-37g each

Comentado por Allakhazam

Just thought I should point out that when creating arcanite the cooldown on the Philosophers' Stone is 48 hours, not 24 as previously mentioned.

Comentado por Allakhazam

You can make approximatley 8 gold using this, but you can only do it every 24 hours....
guess I'll have to make my guildies give me the ore that's in the recipe; then I can make 29g and 50s per fusion.... sweeet. :D :D :D

Comentado por Allakhazam

I'm selling the transmute for 5g... and its 48h cooldown.

The thorium is not that expensive, but the Arcane Crystals are! Often worse than the bars themself!

My suggestion is to buy a stack of thorium bars, and bid for crystals when they are going cheap, transmute, and sell the bars at AH!

Edited, Wed Feb 23 20:12:52 2005

Comentado por Allakhazam

This is a good way to make some money. Got transmute few weeks ago and used it everytime cooldown ends, either sold transmute or bought crystal and thorium bar and then sold the arcanite bar. 2-8g profit everytime.

Comentado por Allakhazam

sold one for 75g yesterday on windrunner, what the hell happpened

Comentado por Allakhazam

it's a trainer's spell or a recipe?

Comentado por Allakhazam

Could you maybe make money with this? I haven't looked at how much the ingredients cost, but this sells for a nice bunch and I'm getting close to this level of Alchemy... Maybe I could afford a mount by Lvl 40 doing this... erm, you didn't hear that.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Depends on server. On my server its hard to sell a Bar for 27g.

Comentado por carwik149

Essential for many late game items and enchants! Prices may vary but at least on Dreadmist EU they tend to go for around 65-70g /each.

Comentado por Rothia

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Receive both Grilhões do Perseguidor dos Ventos (drop rate: 4,08%) from Garr and Grilhões do Perseguidor dos Ventos (drop rate: 4,28%) from Barão Geddon in Núcleo Derretido.
Visit Grão-lorde Dimitriano in Silithus. He will give you Casulo de Renascimento to start the quest Examine o casulo which leads to Trovejardus, o Perseguidor dos Ventos.
Kill Ragnaros for Essência do Senhor do Fogo (100% drop rate when you have the quest in your log).
Aquire 10x Barra de Elemêntio.
Bring your guild and head back to Grão-lorde Dimitriano. Turn in the quest and he will summon Príncipe Trovejardus which will drop Lâmina Latente Beijada pelo Vento.
Complete Erga-se, Tormentária! and you're done!

Mats needed for 10x Fundir Elemêntio:

100x Barra de Arcanita (100x Barra de Tório + 100x Cristal Arcano + 100x Transmutar: Arcanita)
10x Minério de Elemêntio (Buy from the Auction House or loot in Covil Asa Negra from Técnico Asa Negra)
10x Núcleo de Fogo (Buy from the Auction House or loot in Núcleo Derretido from trash mobs)
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Comentado por Rothia

The following quests can be picked up from Artesão Wilhelm at the Light's Hope Chapel in the Terras Pestilentas Orientais by completing Manual de Omarion which you get from Mestre Artesão Omarion.
He's trapped in a cage in the first room of trash in the Deathknight Wing inside Naxxramas.
With a skill of 300 and high enough reputation, you will be able to choose from a total of 13 different patterns depending on your professions: Alfaiataria (4), Couraria (6) or Ferraria (3).

Patterns / Plans doesn't exists, all of them are taught by Mestre Artesão Omarion in Naxxramas

FROST RESISTANCE CLOTH ARMOR: →

----- cloak

--- vest

--- wrists

--- gloves

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

--- cloak tailoring

Item / Alfaiataria	Quest / Pattern	Runa Congelada	Peça de Runatrama	Essência da Água	Seda de Aranha Ferroteia	Gold	Aurora Argêntea
Colete Glacial	Colete glacial	8	8	6	4	300	Exalted
Pulsos Glaciais	Pulsos glaciais	4	2	2	2	200	Neutral
Luvas Glaciais	Luvas glaciais	5	4	4	2	200	Neutral
Manto Glacial	Manto glacial	5	4	2	4	200	Exalted
Colete Glacial	Molde: Colete Glacial	7	8	6	8	Free	Revered
Pulsos Glaciais	Molde: Pulsos Glaciais	4	2	2	4	Free	Revered
Luvas Glaciais	Molde: Luvas Glaciais	5	4	4	4	Free	Revered
Manto Glacial	Molde: Manto Glacial	5	4	2	4	Free	Revered

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FROST RESISTANCE LEATHER ARMOR: →

--- vest

---bracers

--- vest

--- wrists

--- gloves

Item / Couraria	Quest / Pattern	Runa Congelada	Couro Encantado	Essência da Água	Pelego Rústico Curado	Seda de Aranha Ferroteia	Gold	Aurora Argêntea
Túnica Polar	Túnica polar	8	16	5	5	❌	300	Exalted
Braçadeiras Polares	Braçadeiras polares	4	12	3	3	❌	200	Neutral
Luvas Polares	Luvas polares	5	12	3	3	❌	200	Neutral
Túnica Polar	Molde: Túnica Polar	7	16	2	4	4	Free	Exalted
Braçadeiras Polares	Molde: Braçadeiras Polares	4	12	2	2	4	Free	Revered
Luvas Polares	Molde: Luvas Polares	5	12	2	3	4	Free	Revered

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FROST RESISTANCE MAIL ARMOR: →

----- vest

----- wrist

----- gloves

--- vest

--- wrists

--- gloves

Item / Couraria	Quest / Pattern	Runa Congelada	Escama Pesada de Escorpídeo	Essência da Água	Pelego Rústico Curado	Seda de Aranha Ferroteia	Gold	Aurora Argêntea
Peitoral de Escama Gelada	Peitoral de escama gelada	8	24	7	5	❌	300	Exalted
Braçadeiras de Escama Gelada	Braçadeiras de escama gelada	4	16	5	3	❌	200	Neutral
Manoplas de Escama Gelada	Manoplas de escama gelada	5	16	5	3	❌	200	Neutral
Peitoral de Escama Gelada	Molde: Peitoral de Escama Gelada	7	24	2	4	4	Free	Exalted
Braçadeiras de Escama Gelada	Molde: Braçadeiras de Escama Gelada	4	16	2	2	4	Free	Revered
Manoplas de Escama Gelada	Molde: Manoplas de Escama Gelada	5	16	2	3	4	Free	Revered

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FROST RESISTANCE PLATE ARMOR: →

--- vest

---bracers

gauntles

--- chest

--- bracers

--- gloves

Item / Ferraria	Quest / Plans	Runa Congelada	Barra de Tório	Barra de Arcanita	Essência da Água	Gold	Aurora Argêntea
Peitoral da Perdição Gélida	Peitoral da perdição gélida	8	16	2	4	300	Exalted
Braçadeiras da Perdição Gélida	Braçadeiras da Perdição Gélida	4	12	2	2	200	Neutral
Manoplas da Perdição Gélida	Manoplas da perdição gélida	5	12	2	2	200	Neutral
Peitoral da Perdição Gélida	Instruções: Peitoral da Perdição Gélida	7	16	2	4	Free	Exalted
Braçadeiras da Perdição Gélida	Instruções: Braçadeiras da Perdição Gélida	4	12	2	2	Free	Revered
Manoplas da Perdição Gélida	Instruções: Manoplas da Perdição Gélida	5	12	2	2	Free	Revered

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ALL CLASSES

----- glacial legs

----- polar legs

----- icy scale legs

----- icebane legs

Reward	Quest	Runa Congelada	Essência da Água	Safira Azul	Gold	Aurora Argêntea
Perneiras Glaciais	A única cançoneta que eu conheço...	2	2	2	30	Neutral
Perneiras Polares	A única cançoneta que eu conheço...	2	2	2	30	Neutral
Perneiras de Escama Gelada	A única cançoneta que eu conheço...	2	2	2	30	Neutral
Perneiras da Perdição Gélida	A única cançoneta que eu conheço...	2	2	2	30	Neutral

--- head

--- shoulders

--- head

--- head

--- head

--- shoulders

--- head

--- head

DROP	BOSS	WOWHEAD DROP RATE: 2021-01-29

Diadema Glacial	Gothik, o Ceifador	22,44 %
Dragonas Glaciais	Grobbulus	19,35 %

Capacete Polar	Gothik, o Ceifador	20,51 %
Espaldares Polares	Grã-viúva Faerlina	20,26 %

Coifa de Escama Gelada	Heigan, o Sujo	22,59 %
Espaldares de Escama Gelada	Grobbulus	21,51 %

Capacete da Perdição Gélida	Heigan, o Sujo	17,47 %
Brafoneiras da Perdição Gélida	Grã-viúva Faerlina	19,83 %

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